Just quoted for $6,600 from Landrover - Brookvale NSW

We bought a 2007 Disco3 2.7 TDV6 last year to tow our camper and have experienced the same problems. Got the errors, the limp mode, the restart numerous times. It took a while to diagnose the root of the problem as it usually occurred when the car was under load - ie towing. Fortunately the statutory warranty covered the replacement of the HPFP so I don't know the cost. But I have noticed a difference when driving, whether towing or not. More importantly no more stressful limp mode episodes in the middle of the City West flyover!

Incidentally we also had the 168k service done this week including new timing belt. All up the whole service came to about $1300. Just in time too as the belt had just started to tear on rhe edge... This was from a LR trained, now independent repairer. My experience with the shop has been nothing short of excellent but unfortunately for you its nowhere near Brookvale. But if you could save yourself a few grand in cost it would more than cover the cost of an Uber or two 😉. Happy to give you the details if you are interested.

I had the limp mode happen on my 2013 D4 SE about 6 months ago. Would run from anywhere between 60 seconds and 10 mins. Had to pull over, turn off then on again Took it to my landrover mechanic who isn't a dealer and he did a software upgrade and I was up and running again. I'm sure the dealer would of tried to rip me off as well.

Mileage is a pretty simple and shallow measurement of timing belt fatigue. alot depends on how much extreme temps they are exposed to and how much hot idling they do, any dust exposure etc etc. in the Top End we do them much sooner than 'due date' for these reasons, espec if the engine does a lot of hours as opposed to mileage.

I reckon just bite the bullet if you like the vehicle and your family does too... but it pays to realise any possibility it gets written off / stolen, the insurance co wont give a damn if you just put 6K into it :(

its just another reason to stick with the simpler diesels. i feel your pain, mate.

Grr.. Its threads like this that give me no incentive to upgrade from my D2 !

Surely with all the knowledge out there by now on these cars there's a proper diagnostic procedure that can be done by us home mechanics to determine whether a new HP or LP fuel pump is required??

$6.5 K buys a professionally rebuilt and fitted transmission in a D2.

I think some of you blokes are losing perspective of what are reasonable maintenance costs - either that or a D4 is really that good!!

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Originally Posted by Lukeis

Hm..


agh, i hate cars again.

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Don't hate the cars . . . . . . just hate those smug imperious dealers who think "you know nothing".
Remember when we used to fix these things ourselves ?

My earlier reply seems to have failed so I'll try again.

A few things to check

* Has the high pressure pump actually failed?

* Has the fuel filter ever been changed? A partially blocked filter might produce bizarre problems

* Is replacement of the high pressure pump a body off job? Replacement of its drive belt is not.

* Is replacement of the low pressure pump a body off job?

Get a detailed quote. The body can be removed in 2 hours or less and replaced in 2 /12 hours by a good operator.

Because access around the engine is difficult it is wise to follow through on some maintenance work while the body is off.

The camshaft front timing belt (service intervals seems to be 100,000 miles - 160,000km) is not a body off job but easier and quicker to do when the body is off. My Sport is an early one (2005) which had a potentially fragile cam belt idler boss on the oil pump. I had the belt and oil pump changed at 100,000km although the original belt proved to be sound.

Check/replace the plastic coolant manifold on top of the engine. Access is easy. The manifold can split, dump the coolant and result in complete engine failure. The original equipment part and periodical change is the economical approach. The aluminium after market replacement is expensive and, I understand, not without problems.

Suggest you get an assessment by a reputable independent Land Rover repairer. I use 4WD Industries at Maitland.

Good luck.

Afloat, 2/12 hours body replacement? Is that the 1....2.....drop approach? [emoji6] haha

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Originally Posted by WayneMac

We bought a 2007 Disco3 2.7 TDV6 last year to tow our camper and have experienced the same problems. Got the errors, the limp mode, the restart numerous times. It took a while to diagnose the root of the problem as it usually occurred when the car was under load - ie towing. Fortunately the statutory warranty covered the replacement of the HPFP so I don't know the cost. But I have noticed a difference when driving, whether towing or not. More importantly no more stressful limp mode episodes in the middle of the City West flyover!

Incidentally we also had the 168k service done this week including new timing belt. All up the whole service came to about $1300. Just in time too as the belt had just started to tear on rhe edge... This was from a LR trained, now independent repairer. My experience with the shop has been nothing short of excellent but unfortunately for you its nowhere near Brookvale. But if you could save yourself a few grand in cost it would more than cover the cost of an Uber or two 😉. Happy to give you the details if you are interested.

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Did the $1300 include the oil pump as well ?, if so its a bargain, if not get it done asap.

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Originally Posted by Lukeis

Hm..

a little history..

I have had an intermittent issue for the past 12 months, can does into limp mode and is resolved by pulling over, turning off and on again then away the problem goes for another month or so.

The codes I received were initially P0087 which was for the first 8 months, then that code was replaced by P2290 which appeared for the past 2 months and finally last week a new code P0191 showed up. The problem has been posted about previously but due to its highly irregular nature I dealt with it for sometime all the while knowing from everything I have read it relates to a high or low pressure fuel pump.

So today I took it to LR and asked them to fix it. An hour ago I get a call from them saying they want $6,600 to replace the low pressure and high pressure fuel pump, fuel tank O ring and for a new timing belt kit.

I was anticipating one, not both and nothing prepared me for a $7K bill or the mention of a timing belt kit (car only has 120,000km - its a 2011 2.7L).

Their rationale to bill for both pumps is that it is actually the High pressure pump which is busted but they expect the low pressure pump will go soon as it has had to compensate. The timing belt kit is 'because we are in there already'.

My questions to any mechanics amongst us:

1) Would you do both pumps or just the one which is stuffed (HP)?
2) Is the timing belt kit a worthwhile addition, ie, are they really in the vicinity and this would have significant savings on labour later in life?
3) Is this cost anywhere close to reasonable?

I asked them how much it would be to just do the High pressure pump and not the timing belt or Low pump and they quoted 5.3K (he used a basic subtraction of $880 for the low pump and $400 odd for the timing belt, using these numbers they obviously did not adjust for the reduced labor - this seems wrong.

agh, i hate cars again.

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Just get a second opinion to compare without them know the first quote. If legit and you are keeping the car for a while fix the lot.

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Originally Posted by chw

Hi again Luke,

as you know we had this same issue with our MY12 2.7 TDV6 in the middle of last year (127,265 km).

We had the HPFP replaced, along with the timing belt/pump drive belts in at the end of Sept last year (PCB Independent Land Rover Specialists here in Adelaide - www.pcblandrovers.com.au/ )

After testing the LPFP it was considered that it was running within specifications and not replaced. The replacement of the HPFP and belts was a one day job (albeit being at the back of the motor it's a pain)

- HPFP - $2142
- Timing belt kit - $195
- labour (6.5 hours) - $926

Total - $3263

11,200 km later (now 138,482 km) it's been trouble free, and no issues with the Low Pressure Fuel Pump.

Sounds to me like $6600 is way over the top, even with the replacement of the LPFP, although it does make a lot of sense to replace the timing belts at the same time as the HPFP rather than repeat the whole process somewhere not too far down down the track for a similar labour price.

Spend the savings with a trip to the Flinders Ranges :)

Craig

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