Discovery 3 2.7lt TDV6 Timing belt change WARNING

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Absolute BS about the batch of cranks. The issue has persisted through all years and has now been seen on the D5 as well. Not saying it’s the same exact cause leading to crank failure, but it shouldn’t be that difficult to keep a crank turning.
As for lax maintenance - it’s happened to people who’ve had full service history and some who’ve gone above and beyond. I agree though - every trip I worry if I’m next.

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Does anyone know what ford did differently to prevent this happening on the territory?

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Originally Posted by BradC

Does anyone know what ford did differently to prevent this happening on the territory?

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As you know this engine is used in many vehicles and the issue doesn’t occur. Much conjecture about how the engine is packaged in the LR that might cause issue but nothing definite.

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Originally Posted by BradC

Does anyone know what ford did differently to prevent this happening on the territory?

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You may well find...
*Upgrades or faults are progressively done on an engine series.
*The engine used in the Ford Territory are like 2014 onwards.
*Crankshaft failures, oil pump housings, incorrect big end assembly etc etc are up to about 2011.
*Although keep in mind... its early days for a 2014 engine in any vehicle, but hope all the faults have been ironed out.

*Also note (this is my guess), the territory engine, discovery engine etc etc are all built on the same assembly line at the same engine factory, as in just like car models (Jag, Range Rover on same assembly line) each likely being labeled "ford aust, territory" "Land rover" etc etc. This is based on the last "Territory" engine I used had 30K on it and the coolant line at the back of the engine had a Land Rover part number and a Land Rover logo on them (they clearly were part of the original engine as supplied to me).

*Also note V6 engines in general have ALWAYS been prone to crankshaft breakage (when compared to a straight six or v8) due to the common split crankshaft design from as early back as the 90's.

And same problem is popping up on the ‘new and improved’ 3.0 version.

Regarding the Indy close to the dealer I know many happy customers who just want to avoid the dealer and take no mechanical interest in their car. You just have to accept your input will not be appreciated.

Back to the OP there can’t be many pre MY09 2.7Ds that have not yet had their timing belt done. This makes it a game of Russian Roulette if buying one of these second hand and worth checking if the original oil pump housing is still on. Not sure how easy it is to see the part without some disassembly?

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Originally Posted by BradC

Does anyone know what ford did differently to prevent this happening on the territory?

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Doesn't it? - I have heard of a few spun bearings so I assume broken cranks in Territories.

The reality is that broken cranks are pretty rare compared to the number of cars built - I assume there are far more Disco 2.7s and 3.0s around the world than there is the few Territories in Aust so broken cranks in Discos are more obvious that broken cranks in Territories.

Garry

100% its an issue.

i only replace timing belts on the early ones if the owner wants to replace the pump. No pump no job as far as i am concerned.

Jc