Touring setup weight concerns ?

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Originally Posted by shanegtr

Thanks for posting that up - really helpfull for me as there is no weigh bridge where I live (at least not yet anyway - local tip is building one but no idea if it will be available to the public yet). Since my D3 is stetup very similar to your D4 the figures would be near enough to work out some rough estimates. I think I'll be just scrapping in under GVM with all the kids onboard - hitching up the camper will put me over. Need the correct initial weights before I get too carried away wwith it yet however

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How heavy is the ball weight on the camper?

It shouldn’t move you over at all.

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Originally Posted by skellar

Hi Shane,

If it helps my D4 on the weighbridge had the following (Starting at the front):-

ARB bull bar - (no winch)
Nothing extra under the bonnet
Nothing extra in the front seat area
The middle row of seats - Middle seat removed (-25kg) National Luna Fridge installed (+23) so no difference to standard D3/D4

- 120 Ah battery on the floor in front of the fridge (+36.5kg)

Back luggage area - Third-row seats were still in the car for initial weighing at the weighbridge, so no difference to standard D3/D4 (you will notice I remove them in the spreadsheet)

So the main difference from my weighbridge figures to a standard D3/D4 is the extra battery, extra 110 ltr of fuel and location of the spare.
From my spreadsheet, I removed these items from initial weight and came up with a weight of just over 2700kg with the standard tank full of fuel.
So you could start with an initial weight of around 2650kg and you would be pretty close.
I have a spreadsheet for doing the same calculations for a campervan or trailer if interested.

Cheers
Steve

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For me its an ARB bar, winch, optima battery, 100L aux tank and kaymar twin spare. Middle seat in second row removed and kids installed in the remaining 4 back seats

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Originally Posted by Tombie

How heavy is the ball weight on the camper?

It shouldn’t move you over at all.

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To be honest I have no idea - would be between 50-100kg mark I'd imagine

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Originally Posted by shanegtr

To be honest I have no idea - would be between 50-100kg mark I'd imagine

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Doesn’t count towards your GVM then :)

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Doesn’t count towards your GVM then :)

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I always get a bit confused on this point. Is it 150kg can be put on the ball after you’re already loaded to GVM? And above 150kg must come off your payload?

Scott

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Originally Posted by Tombie

When I can be bothered I’ll be speaking with an engineer about fitting the Armoured D4 suspension and subsequent GVM increase.

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Pardon my ignorance, is that the suspension brand or the actual upgraded suspension for the armoured D4s?

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Doesn’t count towards your GVM then :)

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Maybe, but playing around with the calculator the addition of 100kg on the towbar puts the rear axle over its load limit

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Originally Posted by shanegtr

Maybe, but playing around with the calculator the addition of 100kg on the towbar puts the rear axle over its load limit

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He has the wrong numbers in the spread sheet.
He has rear at 1855 and it’s 1885kg

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Pardon my ignorance, is that the suspension brand or the actual upgraded suspension for the armoured D4s?

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Genuine LR gear.

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Originally Posted by shanegtr

For me its an ARB bar, winch, optima battery, 100L aux tank and kaymar twin spare. Middle seat in second row removed and kids installed in the remaining 4 back seats

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Wow, so you are carrying a few extras...