Thread: EPB. Why?

In some 13 years of ownership of a D3, I have had two issuse with the EPB:-

The first was after new rear discs were fitted and the EPB had not been adjusted.

The second, unfortunately was recently when off-road on a steep incline and we had to stop in order to reverse and pick another line up the slope. The EPB failed as it had run out of travel and would not release. Luckily, using the IIDTool, it was possible to clear the fault long enough to release the EPB and so be able to continue on our way. The other option, that is not easy and we did not need to try, is the manual release. The "boss" was driving at the time and there was a warning earlier that day when she was taking instruction on negotiating a slope and the EPB squealed. Unfortunately I was not in the car and did not realise the implications.

The problem was not apparent in hi-range, but getting the EPB adjusted fixed the problem. I will now make sure that they adjust it at each service. The service place is neither a dealer or a specialist place, other than they mainly work on European cars and get quite a few Landrovers through the doors. A lot cheaper and better than a dealer and some so-called specialists.

The first indication I get that the EPB is due adjustment is the flashing and beeping of the handbrake dash indicator in the morning when starting the car. This is the EPB telling you that the tension has reduced overnight. At this point I get onto an adjustment. I’ve never had a squeal or bind up.

*late post*

A big part of technological progression is to develop products that require less energy expenditure. Throughout all the ages man (Sorry, society.. 2018 now) has developed machines that make our life easier and with less energy consuming movements.

This is usually the trend with cars as well.

My guess is a large part of the decision to make it electronic was based around making the vehicle easy to use.

4 yrs, 40,000 km, bugger all off-road dust and mud etc.
EPB unit replaced about a 1^1/2 yr ago because i pointed out a squeak upon application to them;
EPB module (ECU) being replaced next week after recent failure.
They wouldn't give me the original EPB unit so i could rebuild it, saying they had to keep it for a certain period in case they have to send it to LR for investigation. I want it back. I also want this failed ECU back, even after they investigate. Don't like my chances though.

Originally Posted by scarry

Thats the way to do it in an auto whether it has an EPB or not.

I've mostly driven manuals, so I guess I was wrong to assume what the P was for.

How does this work for manuals, doing hill starts? I would normally release the hand brake slowly while bringing in the clutch. Is this why it has the capacity to 'drive through' the EPB?

I'm thinking I heard somewhere the Disco only came in autos, but if other cars have this sort of brake, it must be an issue.

Originally Posted by Pinelli

I've mostly driven manuals, so I guess I was wrong to assume what the P was for.

How does this work for manuals, doing hill starts? I would normally release the hand brake slowly while bringing in the clutch. Is this why it has the capacity to 'drive through' the EPB?

I'm thinking I heard somewhere the Disco only came in autos, but if other cars have this sort of brake, it must be an issue.

Many newer manuals even without EPB automatically hold on a hill,even our newer vans do this.
At first it takes a bit of getting used to.

Soon there will be drivers of manuals that don't know how to do hill starts...

Originally Posted by scarry

Many newer manuals even without EPB automatically hold on a hill,even our newer vans do this.
At first it takes a bit of getting used to.

Soon there will be drivers of manuals that don't know how to do hill starts...

Yeah, my BMW motor bike has the hill start function. The brakes hold on a hill and then automatically feather as you engage the clutch. A symbol on the dash flashes as it is feathering the brakes during take off. I use it a lot now but it took a bit of getting used to and you can stall if you don't give it enough throttle since you don't have much feel for how much throttle to give it while the brakes are doing their thing.

Originally Posted by Mungus

4 yrs, 40,000 km, bugger all off-road dust and mud etc.
EPB unit replaced about a 1^1/2 yr ago because i pointed out a squeak upon application to them;
EPB module (ECU) being replaced next week after recent failure.
They wouldn't give me the original EPB unit so i could rebuild it, saying they had to keep it for a certain period in case they have to send it to LR for investigation. I want it back. I also want this failed ECU back, even after they investigate. Don't like my chances though.

They might have an argument if the car was still under the original warranty and they replaced the part.

It would be a long bow to draw under extended warranty.

And out of warranty, other than the intellectual property rights on the car …. you own every bit. Yours to keep, not theirs to have.

I think they call that theft … :-)