Tyres again for the D4

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Originally Posted by Don Fellows

The D4 is a very capable off road and on road beast. If you are not into thinking that your D4 is a bulldozer, then you will not get a better tyre than the Pirelli Scorpion Verde ATR All Season. Price is similar to all other quality tyres and you will be amazed at the super quiet ride and feel, and they last forever. You'll think you have bought a new car.

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For a bitumen queen they’ll be a great tyre.
Horrible on loose surfaces or gibber...

Don’t need to be a bull dozer [emoji6]

Had an excellent run from our D697's over the last 3 years. I'm not interested in how long they last more how they perform on and off bitumen. I don't leave for a trip with less than 50% tread depth so for me its about risk reduction and all round performance. The current set of KO2's are great off bitumen but not particularly happy on the black stuff. Way noisier than the 697's and a lot less capable in the wet. My only reason for trying the KO2's was I got them at an excellent price and our off bitumen duty cycle is an average of 20,000km annually so they work in that sense and I swap back to the 19" Goodyears when home and as they are about stuffed it is going to be a hard call to see what we replace them with

Rob

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Originally Posted by Tombie

They’re $325-375 now in 265/60-18 and no stock at BST (only hope is dealer stock)

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Yeah that seems to be their typical price. I have seen them down into the $250's every now and then though.

Possibly a little over the top for a D4, but here is a (brief) trail test of the NEW KM3 tyres.
Yes, there is a Defender in the movie.
I wonder to myself if they all got free tyres to try out on the Rubicon????
YouTube

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Originally Posted by Aussie Jeepster

Possibly a little over the top for a D4, but here is a (brief) trail test of the NEW KM3 tyres.
Yes, there is a Defender in the movie.
I wonder to myself if they all got free tyres to try out on the Rubicon????
YouTube

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Km3s are not coming out in anything that will a discovery without some serious modification unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Don Fellows

The D4 is a very capable off road and on road beast. If you are not into thinking that your D4 is a bulldozer, then you will not get a better tyre than the Pirelli Scorpion Verde ATR All Season. Price is similar to all other quality tyres and you will be amazed at the super quiet ride and feel, and they last forever. You'll think you have bought a new car.

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Hi Don,

Are you getting your Scorpions blended? My take is that the Verde All Season and ATR are different tyres. Is there a different tyre I haven't seen before.

Verdes look more like a road tyre and the ATR has a slightly more aggressive tread pattern. I had ATRs on my first D4 and loved them at first but they became scary in the wet once worn a bit. The outer tread block support becoming a water jam is the opinion of many.

I honestly wouldn't go there again. Which is a shame, as they were quiet, very direct and firm in their road performance and were surprisingly good in certain off-road conditions. I also took them through Sundown National Park with no issue, which is renown for chewing tyres as the rocks are very sharp.

Kev.

I'm keen to try Pirelli's replacements for the ATR - the All Terrain Plus. Pirelli list all the improvements over the ATR in their release blurb and seem to have addressed the ATR's short-comings.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

I'm keen to try Pirelli's replacements for the ATR - the All Terrain Plus. Pirelli list all the improvements over the ATR in their release blurb and seem to have addressed the ATR's short-comings.

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I know you had a similar experience to me Graeme.

You go first and tell me how you do …. [bighmmm] [bigsmile1]

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Originally Posted by Graeme

I'm keen to try Pirelli's replacements for the ATR - the All Terrain Plus. Pirelli list all the improvements over the ATR in their release blurb and seem to have addressed the ATR's short-comings.

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All jokes aside … I'd be keen too.

Up to the issues that presented when a bit worn in the wet, I thought they (Scorpion ATR) were a great tyre.

I have 18" LTZs on my GOE wheels for camping and touring so don't really want a heavy tread AT on my 19" road wheels. The initial attraction to the ATR was the fact that they were rated pretty tough and yet had great road manners.

Best I do some reading … my Wranglers are pretty close to stuffed.

Looking at their tread pattern all I can see is aqua planing issues at speed, and clogging issues in wet dirt...