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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    That is a Queensland thing. I'm told, in Queensland, registered cars must have a valid roadworthy before you can advertise them for sale.
    Yes, if you leave the vehicle that's up for sale on the side of the road in Qld, you need to display a roadworthy in the window. Even driving around with a 'for sale' or 'interested?' sign in the window is illegal without the roady displayed!

    If you leave it on the council land (even with the roadworthy), you could get a ticket from the council for parking there.. and attract vandals, as was pointed out.

    Selling without a roadworthy (basically, selling it unregistered) from your home is fine - you can leave it up to the buyer to get one (e.g. get a mobile RWC unit to your house on sale, to keep rego) or they can drive it home on a permit, if it's unreg and driveable.

    I've found selling from home is fine, as long as you only give out your address when a potential buyer is heading over, and you hang on to their details for your ref, if there's any trouble down the track. Otherwise, you can offer to meet them at a local shopping centre, size them up there.. and if they're OK, do the deal at home.

    I've sold dozens of vehicles online, here's what I found:

    Carsales is good for higher-priced units, and has a better quality look for the website.. but you pay a fair bit upfront to list - although the listing doesn't expire.

    Gumtree is free to list, and really good for vehicles up to a few grand, but can also take higher prices too.. with a Paypal paying option now, so you don't have to accept cash, or buyers don't have to bring cash (there are Paypal fees) - you just have to keep renewing your ad every few weeks, and do it without accidentally paying for bells and whistles. I've found the occasional low-baller.. and generous Nigerian oil rig worker.

    eBay charges, just to list the car for auction (and even more with a reserve!) - although if you don't care how much you want for the vehicle, you can start it at a low price and whip up some interest.

    Facebook is a new option - free to list but I've found constant "is this available?" messages (if it wasn't I'd have taken it down!) and lots and lots of low-ballers.

    Trading Post online, plus newspaper sites Drive and carsguide are still out there, but I don't use them at all.

    My 2 cents anyway

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    the 419 scams

    I've read this thread and no-one's mentioned scammers much. '419' refers to the clause in the Nigerian legislation which forbids computer fraud. 419 is very big business in Nigeria - theoretically forbidden but in practice, enabled.
    The one I encountered was "I'd like to buy your car, sight unseen, payment via PayPal". There's updated and better scams now.

    Have a cruise over scamwatch websites to ensure you're not caught out.

    I used Drive.com (useless) and carsales (did eventually sell, car 1) but the most interest I got was from 'illegally parking' (car 2). Sold car 2 the day I got a ticket but I got more interest in that week than I did from the websites, scammers excepted.

    Meeting at a supermarket carpark requires security precautions. One friend (who was ill with cancer and needed the money for treatment) got left standing there - the guy just snatched the keys and drove off, leaving him over 100km from home. Always get the licence details from any test-driver - worthwhile sitting in the back seat. A quick phone-photo of the licence and the driver sorts that out.

    Car 2 - just 'un-parking it from the roadside' - I drove it around the block and then said, "there, you drive," and he said, "No need - I've felt the car and seen how you drive. Will you accept ($500 less than my sticker)?"

    If I was selling my LR, particularly to an LR virgin, I'd drive it myself till the diesel warmed up and there's an embankment nearby that looks more intimidating than it is, just drive over that.

    Buying a car, I look in the boot first (for rust) then under the bonnet (for repaired accident damage, painted rubber over wrinkled metal, etc). If your car passes these tests, you can reassure a buyer by sharing them. Service history is huge to an informed buyer.

    Final tip - negotiations over ("as a private seller, no guarantees, but I think you'll like it") and their money in your bank, hand over those unique spares (useless to you, valuable to them) as a bonus; adds to the buyer feel-good.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    That is a Queensland thing. I'm told, in Queensland, registered cars must have a valid roadworthy before you can advertise them for sale.
    You are correct, Mick. Registered cars must have a current Safety Certificate to be offered for sale in Qld. If you offer a car for sale "unregistered, no RWC" and it is still registered you can be in trouble if someone in authority notices. It has to be deregistered (plates handed in) to be sold that way.

    Another catch for those not in the know is parking a car on a public road for purposes of display for sale is a no-no. In Brisbane City Council area if a council officer notices or someone complains you get a decent fine from council and if no Safety Certificate blue page displayed they notify TMR who come out and issue a further fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfornow View Post
    Just a heads up for selling on public space with "for sale" on a vehicle. I saw an official looking envelope under a windscreen on a vehicle parked on the street nearby. Checked, and it was for a lot of $$$ for "no road worthy certificate". (Queensland Police)
    Another way of controlling felons?
    One of the measures put in place to limit the activities of unlicensed dealers (known to the trade as "fleas") The depts. had been imposing more and more regulation on the legitimate industry and the Motor Trades Association lobbied for the guv to give some attention to the unlicensed flea dealers. Computerised records and the need to provide an address via rent receipt or rates notice helped the inspectors immensely. One guy near me who had been fleaing for probably 20 years got smart and was buying at auctions and putting them in his name, wife's name, and those of his three children including an 8 year old girl. Surname and address searches brought him undone. Transport coppers had a tilt tray pick up a car he had on the footpath for sale and put it over the pits. Got a fine for display for purposes of sale and was told his car was very unroadworthy and he could go to Darra and pick it up but not to be driven until a long list of repairs were completed. The guy who gave him the shinky RWC got busted as well and lost his inspection licence.
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