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Originally Posted by Arapiles
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Originally Posted by Arapiles
"They'd just had it serviced by an official Bentley dealer: $10,000 for the service ..." Oh dear! Younger bro bought a Bentley not long ago after pricing up an absolute top of the range new Rangie with petrol V8. Reckoned there wasn't a lot of difference. Although he loved the Rangie ride he hated the black smoke out the arse end of his RR Autobio when he booted it. :)
However, with the size of his cheque book I doubt he'll be worried about a few quid to service his new steed.
AlanH.
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I regularly do a 1000 km run in the Defender
The silence is incredible
i cant hear a thing when i get out ;-) :-?
I was interested to see how many parts from a 2013 Defender could be directly fitted to my 1974 Slll, there are so many!
Having spent over ten years trundling around the UK in a Defender 110 with up to 11 of us in it, acquiring a D2 V8 Auto in Australia was a bit of a revelation; the Disco feels like a "proper" Landrover but you can hear yourself think and still move after a day at the wheel so, as I get older and more in need of TLC, you've got me wondering how much of an improvement a D4 would be over the D2 .. perhaps time to start scanning the classifieds ..
Go for a test drive - and you'll be sold! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by andyh
Drive a Puma Defender too, you might be sold on one of those instead if you want a quiet ‘real Land Rover’ [bigwhistle] You never know!
1000km in my 1998 300 Tdi Defender definately celebrates the golden silence once you step out of the vehicle.
1000km in my 2014 Puma Defender on the other hand is a joy! It’s a quiet Defender! The seating position is excellent for long hauls and the 6 speed box makes cruising at speed limit / 2200rpm easy.
Disco 4? Never driven one. ...Yes I’m sure they’re quieter, more plush, etc. but you can’t hose em out and they have about 6 million computers and air springs etc. Sounds like a Range Rover to me [bigwhistle]
I don't have a D4 but my D3 is substantially more comfortable than my D2.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyh
I spent 13 years bouncing and working and firefighting from Toyota utes and other configurations (FJ40s or equivalent) and at the end of that time - swore I'd never drive or own a 4WD again! (Only got to drive a Land Rover once - a 130 due for exit; noted how it seemed simpler, slower, more comfy and capable).
Time passes - but not the adventurous spirit.
After finding ourselves in a 2004 Holden Astra, 2-FWD, no limited slip or mods, and once again somehow having navigated a lengthy 4WD trail one too many times - bit the bullet and got a Freelander 2.
Which - no low range, but diesel torque on a 6sp auto - seems to go pretty much anywhere I remember the petrol Toyotas going 30-40 years ago, bar the last bit of extreme and fighting fires.
And we call the cruise control the cop-control.
Talked to a D4 owner when we bought it, older guy, we had the same reaction:
It's almost too easy! - (particularly to exceed speed limits, as well as off-road).
And we'd both had the thing of 500km and feeling like we could go for a drive to look around.
7 years and almost no trouble; both the keys 'still work' but seem to be a weak point.
No wonder I'm seeing so many more late-model Land Rovers around Canberra nowadays.
Hi Folks, this is my first post, having joined a few days ago. Think I am well qualified to comment on people selling LR/RR due to potential costs and getting "scared". Had a 2009 TDV8 RRS for 2 yrs and took it from 62k to 119k klms over 2.5 yrs and loved it. No real probs, I did all the oil changes but had the steel auto pan fitted etc etc. Did an air bag whilst on mainland holiday (I am from Tassy) and started to get freaked out re further potential costs to the point I traded it last December on a new Isuzu Mux with the 6 speed auto. "Thought" I liked it but after several weeks i found its numerous deficiencies. Not fair to the Mux to compare with the RRS but inevitably one does, as after all, you notice such things whenever you drive it and can't help comparing. Two main problems; the auto couldn't decide which gear it wanted to be in. Never got into 6 until doing at least 90 kph on the flat with no load, and as soon as you accelerated whatever gear you were in it always changed down in order to keep it around 1900 rpm at least. Second problem was that my 2.9T c/van tended to take control.....the Mux was far too light. Although the Mux is rated to 3.0T it is very different towing a 3.0T c/van to a 3.0T box trailer . (Think about the dynamics involved with both!) Had air bags in rear coils but still not hugely stable when towing, and a long story short, the Mux has gone and 3 weeks ago I became the extremely proud owner of a 2013 TDV6 Disco 4. Had to go to NSW to find one but got one with 102k and seems pretty good. So, I have forsaken 5 yrs/130,00klms warranty of Mux to "take the risk" with a 5 yr old Disco 4 and am back in Heaven! Interestingly, the fuel economy is 1.6lphk BETTER in the Disco probably 'cos it'll go into 8th at 80kph with no load and uses its torque and engine/trans much better matched than the Mux with the Hilux/Prado (yes!) transmission. Have had the auto flushed/serviced using the new Penrite oil which is working well and definitely less than 1/3rd of the price of genuine ZF oil. It will be interesting to see if they drop their price now they no longer have a monopoly.....I love this Disco as I did the RRS. Has cost me a LOT of munney to finally find paradise once again! PS> Bought a new Stage One V8 LR in '83 after several Series 2 & 3's, then a new V8 One Ten in '85 so must confess maybe I am just a 'little' L/R biased!!!