Oil level

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Originally Posted by slug_burner

People appear to manage without dipsticks on their automatic transmissions! I think that the dipstick is a potential contamination source. Dirt gathers around the mouth of the tube and could find it’s way into the tube as we try and put the dipstick back.

How many people use the dipstick on a daily or weekly basis. Most are no different to the target market which does not like to get their hands dirty.

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Dipsticks are there for the service agents too, not just the owner.

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Really in over 100 years of the internal combustion engine how many people have become ill because of dip stick fumes[bighmmm] Same goes for contamination

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Only those who love the pong of the infernal Combustion engine & have a long tube going from the dipstick tube back to the steering wheel & terminating in a face mask & sniff on it ad nauseum. Some folk prefer glue or petrol, while others prefer engine fumes. Simples, what's not to understand?[wink11][biggrin]

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Originally Posted by justinc

I am only finding it irritating having to wait 20mins from hot to test it, but in all reality most people check oil in the mornings, or left for a while. I have no issue with my dash gauge in that respect. I change mine at 10,000km so no problem with long changes IMO. For MOST of us, the lack of a dipstick doesn't really pose a risk, it's just something to get used to.

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Why not just open the bonnet and press the cruise button twice, as per the service manual to read it as and when you want, designed for service agents? Sure it might be 20ml inaccurate as it might not all have settled, but close enough surely.

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Why not just open the bonnet and press the cruise button twice, as per the service manual to read it as and when you want, designed for service agents? Sure it might be 20ml inaccurate as it might not all have settled, but close enough surely.

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Did a 10,000 km oil service today, used the e-dipstick to check I had filled to the right level. Ignition on, in service menu with oil level showing, topped off with oil until at max level. All good.

All this talk of dipsticks. I try to read my mum’s Golf dipstick. One side remains dry. The other unable to read. Every time you try it drags oil up the tube. Every reinsert grabs said oil and coats stick. This thing uses about a litre every 2000km so it’s a regular occurrence and according to VW and the manual, within tolerance. Thank god it has electronic wizardry to tell her it’s low on oil else it would be dead long ago. I WISH it had an electronic level indicator not it’s useless stick. Not all sticks are made equal.

There is nothing wrong with not having a dipstick and having a readout to tell you the level - however that system has to be reliable which clearly the LR system is not - the original post was about a low level indication when it was fine - what would have happened it that indication was acted upon and more oil added - some sort of damage would have been expected - would LR honour a relevant claim - unless the system is reliable, which it is clearly not, then secondary system is needed.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

There is nothing wrong with not having a dipstick and having a readout to tell you the level - however that system has to be reliable which clearly the LR system is not - the original post was about a low level indication when it was fine - what would have happened it that indication was acted upon and more oil added - some sort of damage would have been expected - would LR honour a relevant claim - unless the system is reliable, which it is clearly not, then secondary system is needed.

Garry

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My 2012 Navara has a digital readout that tells you the oil level on startup, It also has a dipstick which is what I prefer to use to check the oil.
Seriously how bloody hard is it to lift the bonnet to check the oil/coolant and have a quick squizz in the engine bay to see if all is well.
This is a landrover site which means a 4WD site and most of us actually engage the center diff or 4WD and use our Landrovers as they were designed for, Checking the fluid levels and the rest of the truck out every day when off the beaten track is what you do so that there are NO stuff ups in the middle of nowhere.
I suppose those of us who never go off road in their Toorack Taxies and wouldn't know how to check the oil etc. are quite happy to rely on the idiot lights and the digital oil readout to warn them of an impending disaster, Not this little black duck I like to KNOW and see what is going on in the engine bay.

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Originally Posted by garrycol

There is nothing wrong with not having a dipstick and having a readout to tell you the level - however that system has to be reliable which clearly the LR system is not - the original post was about a low level indication when it was fine - what would have happened it that indication was acted upon and more oil added - some sort of damage would have been expected - would LR honour a relevant claim - unless the system is reliable, which it is clearly not, then secondary system is needed.

Garry

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Really? The oil level sensor issue is far less common than suspension arms, air compressors, even crank issues! It’s hardly what I’d call unreliable, but admittedly it’s something you’d prefer zero failures with. I agree the problem is you have no choice but to restart your journey on a flat bed as you have no way of verifying the failed sensor if that happens, which is unacceptable for a true off road vehicle. That I agree with.

It has been raised on this forum a number of times - and indeed is the subject of this thread. Raised on forums all around the world. Is an issue that is more common than you think.

garry

Having No dipstick is just Tech for Tech's sake, With the cost of a new truck these days the cost of fitting a dipstick is minimal so why not have it fitted to the engine just in case the owner wants to have the option of checking his/her oil manually?