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Thread: Dealership recommend to replace front lower control arms at 20,000kms

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    Quote Originally Posted by letherm View Post
    Does it begin with a "P" and near Carrs Park? If so, then yes.

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    Mine starts with Parra but is one of the trivett group.
    might try concord or alto group next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by joneswood View Post
    Mine starts with Parra but is one of the trivett group.
    might try concord or alto group next time
    Mine's at Blakehurst not part of Trivett group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjc_td5 View Post
    Others have certainly been replaced at those sort of kms. Yes the bushes themselves can be replaced but when including labour, it usually cheaper to just replace the whole arm.
    Just had mine done on my D3 by local suspension mob, they said they wont do the Hydro bushes because they will need replacing in 12months which i thought was B.S but looking at the comments maybe 20K is plausible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty_P View Post
    Just had mine done on my D3 by local suspension mob, they said they wont do the Hydro bushes because they will need replacing in 12months which i thought was B.S but looking at the comments maybe 20K is plausible....
    It totally depends on what terrain you drive on. My car’s original ones lasted 196k km. The next ones have lasted 60k so far with no issue and have done corrugated off road. If you never want to replace them again then sure, don’t use hydra, but generally they’re fine. I wonder if the flex they have (by design) is misunderstood by some as a failed bush when there’s nothing actually wrong with it?
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    Good point DJ.

    I’m thinking of replacing all the bushes in the rear upper and lower control arms with SuperPro bushes.

    Not hydraulic, but the Superpro I’ve got in there so far (sway bars front and rear) are fine.

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    After 185,000kms, there are some clunks and groans in there, and it doesn’t “ feel” as tight as it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE View Post
    Good point DJ.

    I’m thinking of replacing all the bushes in the rear upper and lower control arms with SuperPro bushes.

    Not hydraulic, but the Superpro I’ve got in there so far (sway bars front and rear) are fine.

    SuperPro Suspension Parts and Poly Bushings for LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2009-2016 - Series 4


    After 185,000kms, there are some clunks and groans in there, and it doesn’t “ feel” as tight as it should.
    Many who’ve gone superpro complain of a harsher drive after. I believe you’re better to go with the advanced factors upgraded bushes which are still rubber but fixed rubber not hydra, known as Heavy Duty. Each to their own obviously but forewarned is forearmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    It totally depends on what terrain you drive on. My car’s original ones lasted 196k km. The next ones have lasted 60k so far with no issue and have done corrugated off road. If you never want to replace them again then sure, don’t use hydra, but generally they’re fine. I wonder if the flex they have (by design) is misunderstood by some as a failed bush when there’s nothing actually wrong with it?
    The only reason for a replacement for my car, as they told me, was that there is a little bit play when rocking the wheels. Called them again to confirm, and questioned about the replacement at this stage might be too early. Then the service advisor seems like changed his mind, saying it is not urgent important now and take the car back to check in 6 months. IMO I wouldn’t worry it too much and just drive it and get it serviced by another LR dealer. The lesson is that always seek second opinion when dealing with people with conflicts of interest.
    Thank you everyone for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    Many who’ve gone superpro complain of a harsher drive after. I believe you’re better to go with the advanced factors upgraded bushes which are still rubber but fixed rubber not hydra, known as Heavy Duty. Each to their own obviously but forewarned is forearmed.
    Would you be able to send me a illustration showing the structure of hydro bushes.
    How does it work? Is there fluid or oil in the sealed tube to act like shock absorber?
    cheers

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    Have a read of these threads and any linked ones. You'll find feedback on poly bushes and details of the Lemforder hydro bushes that are the factory fitment. You will also see some pictures of what a failed hydro bush looks like.

    DIY Lower Control Arm Bush Replacement

    Poly Bushings in Control Arms

    LRA LCA bushes

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    This reminds about the old Morris 1100 CV joints problems. Due to leaky oil seals dropping oil onto them they were constantly failing and needing replacement. They were simply a cross coated in rubber and when the rubber failed there was an enormous amount of play under acceleration and deceleration. I got quite good at changing them on my father's 1100 having had to do it often. Parts weren't an issue as he was a shift supervisor where they assembled the cars in Zetland in Sydney.


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