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    Convince me to buy a 2013-14 D4 ... or not

    Hi,
    Apologies for newbie post asking potentially the same old questions!

    I'm hoping to update my ageing 2003 Prado at the end of the year and starting to research Discovery 4s. I've wanted one for a long time as on paper it suits most of my needs in terms of space, economy, on-road handling but also off-road capability.
    Having owned a couple of Prados now for over 16 years (both with over 300,000km on the clock and the current one still going strong), I'm concerned about reliability especially for outback travel.

    So would love to hear peoples experiences and thoughts (positive or negative).

    I'd be looking at a 2013-2014 8 speed D4 with less than 100,000km.

    I'm curious about all the threads about diagnostic tools and why so many people have them? Are the necessary because they break down a lot or are there functions that I'm not aware of?

    EDIT - forgot to ask if someone can tell me any other differences between 2013 & 2014 besides the cosmetic lights and front bumper?

    Look forward to hearing responses and again I apologise if this is asked all the time. I've been doing a lot of reading on this forum which has been excellent already!

    Cheers
    Dave

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    I'll watch this thread as I've been wondering the same thing...
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    You'll hear horror stories. You'll hear people who bought a Wednesday car and have never had the bonnet up. You'll hear experience from people who've been there and done that. You'll hear "experience" from people who parrot other people's unfounded opinion.

    In short, it's a forum and you'll get the whole gamut.

    I bought a car that was obviously assembled on Monday morning after the whole factory went out on a 2 day bender and was then worked on by a procession of drunk monkeys. I have a GAP IID because self diagnosis is the only way I can afford to keep this money pit.

    Plenty of others have much better experience. I will say if you plan on buying one get it thoroughly vetted by an independent mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    You'll hear horror stories. You'll hear people who bought a Wednesday car and have never had the bonnet up. You'll hear experience from people who've been there and done that. You'll hear "experience" from people who parrot other people's unfounded opinion.

    In short, it's a forum and you'll get the whole gamut.

    I bought a car that was obviously assembled on Monday morning after the whole factory went out on a 2 day bender and was then worked on by a procession of drunk monkeys. I have a GAP IID because self diagnosis is the only way I can afford to keep this money pit.

    Plenty of others have much better experience. I will say if you plan on buying one get it thoroughly vetted by an independent mechanic.
    Thanks for the reply Brad and sorry to hear that you've had a bad one! What sort of faults have you had? How does the self diagnosis help? Are some of the issues easily fixed yourself or do you still need up taking it to a mechanic?

    PS - What model do you have?

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    I went for a MY14, these are the last of the D4s so have a slight facelift, different headlights, front grill, wing mirrors, badging (Discovery on bonnet instead of Land Rover, the number 4 dropped from the rear badge). AFAIK everything else mechanically is the same as a MY13.

    I’m like Brad as in I need to repair/service mine myself due to money, or more the lack of it. I went with a Gap IIDTool as this seems to do everything I will need, plus more.

    My 2014/MY14 TDV6 has so far been trouble free, but I’ve only had it since October 2018 and have only done about 10,000Km in it (Currently has 116,000Km on the clock).
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    Regardless of Monday vs Wednesday car the D3/4 is a sophisticated ride due to the extra sensors and computers. The air suspension is the cars best feature and worst enemy from an off-road perspective. It's a fussy car and little **** can lead to hampered performance. Doesn't necessarily mean you get stuck but it can weigh on your confidence for remote use. Personally I will never take my D3 proper remote and yet it's not yet left me stranded to date. If I ever want to do that I'll go and buy a 100 series cruiser. Drives like a truck in comparison but you know it's built suitability for the job.

    Just be aware is all I'm saying. They are great cars and the ride is unsurpassable.
    But with complexity comes additional risk.

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    I have had the D4 for 7 years now,and also run a fleet of Toyota commercial vehicles.

    The D4 is no Toyota.

    Maintained correctly by a good Indie,it will be extremely reliable.Maintenance costs are high,as it is highly complicated,particularly compared to a Prado.But driving a D4,it is no comparison to a Prado,off road or on,it is so much better,there is actually no comparison.

    I know this as one of my brothers has one.

    The D4 will cost you more over the years,but it is so much nicer.

    I have had Discoveries for over 20 yrs,and haven't had one break down on the side of the road,or let me down anywhere.

    And we have done numerous remote area trips,no worries at all,usually solo.

    Maintenance is the key,so finding a vehicle that has been serviced correctly by a good Indie,is extremely important.

    Good luck.
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    I don’t own one, but that’s only because I don’t have the means. I have driven several of them - of other members here, and they are bloody fantastic vehicles. All vehicles can have issues, but from what I’ve seen and discussed, they are actually few and far between in the D4 compared to other LR’s and even other brands and there is a huge pool of knowledge here ready and waiting to assist if it’s needed.

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    Sorry - but why should we convince you to buy anything - if you are already not convinced yourself dont buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Sorry - but why should we convince you to buy anything - if you are already not convinced yourself dont buy it.
    He is asking for some friendly advice - if you don’t want to give any that’s fine, but why be so negative about it?
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