Then you allow for the fact you can already have 75kg for the weight of the driver, and the weight of a tank of fuel, say 80kg for the sake of discussion, and you've got 150+75+80 and you've got 305kg to play with, so you don't need to leave the wife behind.
Plus, every kg you are below GVW is a gain.
And you only have to deduct every towball kg above 150kg.
If the actual weight of the vehicle is 2620kg then you have the difference between that and the GVW (not the tare) available as payload.Quote:
Originally Posted by tapda01
Do NOT deduct the 75kg driver or the fuel or the 150kg towball from the 2620 - they are already included.
If the maximum GVW is 3240kg then the available payload is 3240-2620=620kg.
If the towball increases above 150 then deduct that from the 620 e.g. if the towball was 350 then deduct 200 (350-150) from the payload, which is then 420.
Deduct the weight of your wife, kids, luggage etc and you should still be sweet.
Anyway, that's what I can figure.
So, what your saying is, that you're increasing your ball weight by 50 kg. Using the old 10% notion, this means, your sensibly loading another half a tonne of weight on to the van! :Thump:Quote:
Originally Posted by tapda01
Just because your ATM is 2700 kg doesn't mean your actual ball weight is 270 kg or, have you weighed it?
By the way, if your ATM is 2700 kg, then that's your limit. If it's your Tare Weight then that's OK. For instance, the single axle Kedron CP5 has a Tare of 2250 kg and an ATM of 2750kg.
What size water tanks does it have? Travel with them 1/4 - 1/2 and fill up only when necessary.
Should we take a vote?
If the vehicle is at GVM can you tow a trailer with a towball weight of 150kg or less as long as you don’t exceed GCM? And of course rear axel weight.
I say yes.
Need clarification....Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanC
was the vehicle weighed with the trailer hooked up? If so yes
Or was trailer was hooked up after hitting vehicle hits GVM?? If so no
re: GCM, you haven’t mentioned the ATM of the the trailer.....you could have a very heavy trailer with a low TBW....but one would assume with only a 150kg TBW you would be well under GCM, as we all know TBW has to be 10% [emoji6]
Re: rear axle, not enough info....all depends on weight distribution within the vehicle, again I’d assume you would be under with only 150kg TBW.
oh dear... NO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanC
David
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Originally Posted by Odysseyman
Oh dear, what have I done? My brain is starting to hurt. I’m so, so happy my camper trailer weighs only about 700kg.Quote:
Originally Posted by weeds
This has all been discussed in other places. After reading it all, I think it's pretty clear. LR does it differently to other manufacturers. What the manufacturer says is law.
GVW includes 150kg of towball weight.
Ball weight adds to payload - Unless you have a Land Rover Discovery - Caravaners Forum - Since 2000
The OP states the van has an ATM of 2700kg and ball weight of 270kg. End of story. I'm not sure what he's worried about?
The only way he could increase the ball weight to 320kg would be to exceed the ATM, not recommended, or move some existing weight a fair way forward!
What is the van Tare?
If the van is already around 2700kg and there's no water in the tanks then the van is not fit for purpose!
Anyway, once a van gets over these sort of dimensions they are normally dual axle so the ball weight is affected again. I don't think I'd buy a 3500kg, single axle van, would you?