Tow test - 2016 D4 SDV6 vs LC200 Sahara

Yup. LC200 again an overrated and overpriced vehicle...

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Originally Posted by Chops

..... an excellent investment, as would be the TuffAnt rims for you....

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Looks like there'll be another option soon:
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Although, for the type of track/terrain Greg has travelled on this trip, I think the steel wheels would be the better option.

Cheers,
Scott

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Originally Posted by justinc

Yup. LC200 again an overrated and overpriced vehicle...

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Much the same can be said about a Discovery where comfort and luxury tend to take precedence over capability as in the LC200 and this tends to come with an inflated price tag..
A Defender or a 79 Series would outperform either of these offroad because they are both a No nonsense 4WD that are designed with capability being the foremost goal.
Modern SUV's are a compromise between Luxury/Comfort/Looks and 4WD capability/Reliability and that's just fine if that's the sort of vehicle you want to drive and being a D2a owner I Completely understand But for hard core everyday use offroad it is hard to surpass a Defender/79 Series/Patrol.

Did you end up getting out to Walcott or just stay at Bachstein?

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Was a torque converter lock-up module fitted to the LC200?

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So a modern auto vehicle like the 200 series does not have a lock up auto?

Garry

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

So a modern auto vehicle like the 200 series does not have a lock up auto?

Garry

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They do Garry, however their programm8ng is disastrous and it drops out of TC lock as soon as you come to a gentle rise, or start to want to use all of that torque. My 8spd will stay locked all the way down to 1000rpm, and will hold 8th gear at 1350rpm at 100kmh on a slight hill all day long.

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Originally Posted by justinc

They do Garry, however their programm8ng is disastrous and it drops out of TC lock as soon as you come to a gentle rise, or start to want to use all of that torque. My 8spd will stay locked all the way down to 1000rpm, and will hold 8th gear at 1350rpm at 100kmh on a slight hill all day long.

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i wish the 6 speed would do that.

The rebuilt 6-speed in the 3.0 D4 that my son now owns keeps the TC locked to much lower revs and heavier throttle than it did before the rebuild. The rebuild included an improved 3.0 TC.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Much the same can be said about a Discovery where comfort and luxury tend to take precedence over capability as in the LC200 and this tends to come with an inflated price tag..
A Defender or a 79 Series would outperform either of these offroad because they are both a No nonsense 4WD that are designed with capability being the foremost goal.
Modern SUV's are a compromise between Luxury/Comfort/Looks and 4WD capability/Reliability and that's just fine if that's the sort of vehicle you want to drive and being a D2a owner I Completely understand But for hard core everyday use offroad it is hard to surpass a Defender/79 Series/Patrol.

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You could say the Disco trades a small amount of capability for an awful lot of comfort and safety.

I think the biggest problem with a Disco's capability is its price. Because its expensive people are less inclined to trash them. That and the fact that they don't look like a proper 4wd, so they must be soft. [biggrin]
In reality that D3/4 platform is built like a brick ****house, way more than a Defender.

I say this as a dedicated Defender owner.

Cheers,
Jon

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Originally Posted by jon3950

You could say the Disco trades a small amount of capability for an awful lot of comfort and safety.

I think the biggest problem with a Disco's capability is its price. Because its expensive people are less inclined to trash them. That and the fact that they don't look like a proper 4wd, so they must be soft. [biggrin]
In reality that D3/4 platform is built like a brick ****house, way more than a Defender.

I say this as a dedicated Defender owner.

Cheers,
Jon

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Having had both Jon, im not sure where i sit with this, suffice to say, the "Bare_bones" Disco i believe was only literally a few grand more than the Defender. I had the Dual Cab 110, so in reality, very little carrying "space", as such. The 110 wagon and the Disco, im not sure which has more usable room, but the disco certainly i think would have a bigger door entrance.
Ultimately, for me, buying the Defender was a mistake when in reality i use the current Disco as i would any defender.