Agreed. And, any discussion regarding future reliability is is a no win for ICE vehicles. The electric will be soooo much better. No: Fuel systems (low or high pressure), air intake systems, cooling system (maybe something here, granted), all the rotating stuff in the engine, diffs, transfer case, ETC ETC.....They will be more reliable and so much less to maintain.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster
The hardest issues to fix are always the electrical gremlins, these cars will be 100% electrics.. going to need to go back to uni when the oroblems start.
And the earlier point about about replacement batteries is massive, it will destroy the resale value when the car is 10 years old and worth 20k but needs 20k worth of new batteries, all that comes back up the line
that being said I’ll lay my $1000 down when they open up for deposits in Aus. Good bye emissions
Only when we have a low emission power source - which we currently dontQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukeis
“Jerry” batteries aren’t that far fetched [emoji6]Quote:
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Tombie I would rather carry a Wehrmacht-Einheitskanister. [tonguewink]Quote:
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The electrics in electric cars is quite a lot simpler than the electrics in a modern petrol or diesel car. Yes, you'll still have wheel sensors to check to wheel speed and spin, there will be the odd temperature sensor, but no sensors to measure air temperature, air flow, air pressure, fuel temperature, fuel pressure, spark, knock sensors, no O2 sensors, and the list goes on.Quote:
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Sure, and that is totally fair.Quote:
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But I don't have any doubt that there will be a not too distant future where electric utility vehicles are the norm.
As others have said they are actually generally simpler than current internal combustion vehicles, with far less moving parts to break.
Yes there is more electronics, and it means the handy-man out in the field will have different skills.
Instead of repairing broken CV joints or they'll be able to diagnose electric faults or fix faulty motors.
Of course that is all yet to be proven!
My parents also live on a fully off-grid property with a very healthy power system and solar array, they're on the lookout for an EV they can invest in but it needs to be able to cop 45 mins of dirt road round trip to be practical. Once they find it though they'll be filling it up with sun that is currently just going to waste, that's pretty awesome.
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You got me! I’ll confess that im pretty clueless on the electronics in my Puma. But I don’t like it -and if I’d had the option for a brand new 300tdi over a new TDCi, I would have taken it. But no choice when I bought my current vehicle in 2012.
But if offered an electric vehicle over a diesel, living outback, I’d be nuts to consider it. Id have one in town though.
Alan
As mentioned EV electrics are very reliable, they have to conform to IP67 and 20mA isolation standards and as such are pretty much milspec, There is nothing complex about them , The troublesome electrics will be the 12V side just like on an ICE vehicle , because they don't have to comply to the same standard.Quote:
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Since iv'e converted my Landy to 100% EV its been 100% trouble free & I have had absolutely no reason to open the bonnet at all, except to show it off & to tinker of my own volition. it is now without doubt THE most reliable vehicle i have ever owned, just charge & drive.
Is that 45min each way (90 m in round trip) or 45min round trip . My EV conversion can handle that , maybe converting an existing vehicle will be the way to go until a shop bought model is available at a reasonable price. A bloke living on an off grid property converted a Hilux about 15 years ago and recently upgraded the motor & batteries after 100,000km , not because they were stuffed , but better motors & cheaper batteries are around now.Quote:
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