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    D4 Purchase

    Hi. We’re looking at upgrading to a D4. We’re looking for a TDV6 and have found a local 2010 2.7 6 speed with 78000km at a good price, plus the colour matches our camper trailer!

    Now I don’t know a huge amount about the D4, but is there any advantage on spending $8k-$10k more to get a 3.0 8 speed? Looking at a long term purchase.

    We’d be getting a LR shop to check it over prior to purchase. What models should we avoid, plus what are some common problems?

    Thanks in advanced.
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    There’s daylight between the six speed and the later 8 speed. I’ve had both. The 8 speed is a stronger box, much smoother, better ratios and therefore better fuel consumption. If you can stretch to the 8 speed you won’t regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMilner View Post
    There’s daylight between the six speed and the later 8 speed. I’ve had both. The 8 speed is a stronger box, much smoother, better ratios and therefore better fuel consumption. If you can stretch to the 8 speed you won’t regret it.
    Thanks Greg. I’ve contemplated the same. We use Mercedes 8 speed sprinters at work & you don’t even notice the gear changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMilner View Post
    There’s daylight between the six speed and the later 8 speed. I’ve had both. The 8 speed is a stronger box, much smoother, better ratios and therefore better fuel consumption. If you can stretch to the 8 speed you won’t regret it.
    What he said. I’ve got the 3.0 6 speed and its already awesome. The 8 Spd must have even more awesomeness...

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    D4 Purchase

    That’s super low km for 2010 so you have a heap of driving left assuming it’s been well maintained.

    As a 2.7 drive it forever man the long term pros are;

    Still a fantastic drive with ample grunt and a magic gearbox.

    At 78,000km you are ready for the first gearbox oil full flush change if not already done. Same for diffs which should have already been done. Age wise you need to do the timing belt regardless of kms.

    There is no doubt that both the 2.7 and 3.0 both can both randomly self destruct but at least you can replace the 2.7 with a Ford Territory engine at better price. Seems like no ones heard of Territory 2.7s destructing so maybe at 2010 you are in that club.

    The 2.7 only has one turbo to worry about in long term and seemingly fewer issues with it. As a result half the related intake air plumbing and sensors and actuators.

    The 2.7 is simpler and easier to work on access wise.

    The 2.7 does not split intake manifold$ which seems a given on the 3.0 eventually.

    You can buy all same key 2.7 engine parts from Ford at better price conveniently and locally anywhere in Australia (the Toyota owners argument). My DIY oil change parts receipt.



    You can fit 18” standard rims on the 2.7 saving $2k.

    2.7 has a nice old fashioned dip-stick to check oil level.

    6 speed has nice old fashioned gear lever not rotating pop-up hope this never breaks somewhere remote dial.

    Probably uses a good old fashioned key in the ignition solution versus hope this never breaks somewhere remote keyless.

    All the rest including air suspension and 4WD capability is 100% same-same effectively.

    Service it well and enjoy driving it cause you probably won’t be thinking about what engine and gearbox you have much or regretting the loss of 1-2litres /100km given how nice as a touring car they are.

    $8-9k could buy a lot of nice accessories and preventative servicing regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    ... is there any advantage on spending $8k-$10k more to get a 3.0 8 speed?
    No brainer

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    I concur with PerthDisco. Your motoring will be cheaper and simpler with the 2.7L engine for all the reasons mentioned. The $8-10k extra for the 3L 8 speed might be that again in 3L engine related repairs. I’ve had both manifolds go, turbine actuator fail etc. So while the 3L and 8 speed might be nice, factor in potential additional gotchyas later down the track.
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    All fair points. Power and torque figures seem relatively similarish comparing.

    No trans/flexplates/torque converter issues long term from towing if serviced well?

    We’re the sort of people to spend money on maintaining and preventing and keeping the car for >10 years
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    I’m so far a D2 guy who does his own trans servicing. Can I do my own d4 trans/diffs, etc? Otherwise about how much am I looking at from a shop?
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