D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Both the Windsor and Cleveland came in 302 and 351 variations.

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Originally Posted by TerryO

Agreed they both were available in 302 and 351 cubic inch capacity, other trivia, the original Windsor V8 in the early sixties was 221ci, then updated to 260ci in the mid sixties and lastly prior to the release of the 302 in 1968 was the venerable 289 that graced many early Mustangs and other Ford compact cars in both the US and Canada, plus here in Australia with the 1967 XR Falcon, Fairmont and GT models.

Anyway my apologies for going off track, back to the OP’s original topic.

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Useless trivia time.

The 302C was an Australian only engine capacity, it wasn't available in North America.

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Originally Posted by Discodicky

T'other day I read on a English Disco facebook site that one contributor reckoned it depended on which production line the engine was assembled.
One line having a bad reputation for the failures whilst the other had no failures.
I asked him for more information but so far no response.
Sounds a bit over the top but stranger things have happened.....

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I'd read it was the actual crank itself that is the issue. Multiple companies were comissioned to make them and one screwed up the tempering, or something of such nature. Problem was, the items were mixed in distribution so there was no way to trace which engines got a crank from which factory.

Could be BS....

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

I'd read it was the actual crank itself that is the issue. Multiple companies were comissioned to make them and one screwed up the tempering, or something of such nature. Problem was, the items were mixed in distribution so there was no way to trace which engines got a crank from which factory.

Could be BS....

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As far as i'm aware all TDV6 motors came out of the Ford Dagenham engine plant but i would expect like most manufacturers that the cranks were supplied by a 3rd party, much like how a lot of the Ford Barra motor components were cast in China.
Reading on another forum where an LC200 owner had his motor dusted and the replacement cost is 26k and thats with re-using most of his bolt ons.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

As far as i'm aware all TDV6 motors came out of the Ford Dagenham engine plant but i would expect like most manufacturers that the cranks were supplied by a 3rd party, much like how a lot of the Ford Barra motor components were cast in China.
Reading on another forum where an LC200 owner had his motor dusted and the replacement cost is 26k and thats with re-using most of his bolt ons.

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Cranks made in France so it is said...new ones not and forged. Btw LC200 engines are showing more issues with several reporting milky oil😐 26k is cheap as my mate was told @45k by Toyota.

Beeping cars😞

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Originally Posted by INter674

Cranks made in France so it is said...new ones not and forged. Btw LC200 engines are showing more issues with several reporting milky oil😐 26k is cheap as my mate was told @45k by Toyota.

Beeping cars😞

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A mechanic mate had one in the other day,1VD.
Crate long motor, genuine,15K.
So with labour,other bits and pieces,$25K is probably about right.
Similar price to a 3.0L D4.

The old one was in a heavy earth moving mechanics ute,just clocked over 500,000K.
Engine never touched,but clutches have been an issue.
Runs fully loaded almost on GVM all day.

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Originally Posted by scarry

A mechanic mate had one in the other day,1VD.
Crate long motor, genuine,15K.
So with labour,other bits and pieces,$25K is probably about right.
Similar price to a 3.0L D4.

The old one was in a heavy earth moving mechanics ute,just clocked over 500,000K.
Engine never touched,but clutches have been an issue.
Runs fully loaded almost on GVM all day.

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Yeah..45k seems over the top...guess it is for full genuine dealer fitted new motor ...have seen used complete low k engines sell for up to 25k. Dealer prices are scary..as we know...eg 40k for a new TDV8 motor destroyed by a dealer and 3 months to fix. We passed on buying that car🙄

Just hope LR will come to the party..

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Originally Posted by goldey

Harsop1

How long ago did you get your 'reco' engine from those guys? This is where our Disco came from 10 mths ago.

Goldey

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In the end after a 6 week battle my extended warranty (insurance Company) coffed up and paid for a new engine from JLR so didn't cost me anything but I will NEVER use JLR for servicing as the Service Manager insisted that the new engine did not need servicing for 26,000km's even after the first engine snapped the Crank, I just cant see where they are coming from with this attitude as they know better than anyone that 26K between services is a death wish for your engine.

Well done.

How much did it cost?

I've halved the service intervals. Oil is cheap.

I know of a mechanic that has had a D3 stuck at his place for several years. It needs a new engine and he’s unable to locate/contact the owner. So it sits there, in the sun, slowly degrading. It probably now almost worthless.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

I know of a mechanic that has had a D3 stuck at his place for several years. It needs a new engine and he’s unable to locate/contact the owner. So it sits there, in the sun, slowly degrading. It probably now almost worthless.

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After a certain amount of time he is able to dispose of it.

There is one down the road from our place,in someones front yard, been sitting under a tree for at least two yrs,on its bump stops.

The boys call it the place with a Land Rover garden gnome.[biggrin]