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    D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

    Yep, happened last weekend on the way back from the beach. Cruising along and then all of a sudden, knock knock knock engine stops. Coast to a stop and hop out and look under the hood. I get my son to start it and there's a wild old bang bang bang in the engine. Shut it off straight away and wait for NRMA to attend though I know in my heart what has happened. No warning signs, no indications on the dash, oil level is fine and no coolant loss or overheating.

    NRMS are none the wiser and speculate that you've got some big end noise there pal, do you think? Towed to the nearest stelaership where a couple of days later (and a few hundred dollars poorer) we get the definite verdict that the crank and/or crank bearings have rotated and on the last attempt to start the motor as part of the diagnosis work the engine locks up permanently, won't even move with a breaker bar on the crank....

    We've had the D4 since November last year and it's been flawless till last weekend. It has just clocked up 160,000kms. The previous owner had the front and rear belts done before we bought it (at 152k kms).

    Now the options that I might need some help with gents:

    • Brand new motor from LR $40k (yeah right );
    • Replacement reco motor using all of our existing ancillaries for less than $20k (concern about our turnbos and injectors??); or
    • Low mileage second hand unit (if I can find one) for maybe about $15k to $20k.


    The other option is we cut our losses and scrap it with the local wreckers (not preferred). At this stage I'm inclined toward a good second hand unit.

    What say ye wise people?
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    Terrible. IMHO JLR should pay at least 1/2 the cost as 160,000 km is less than 1/2 the life an owner could reasonably expect from a properly serviced motor.

    That motor is not of merchantable quality.

    But I know it won’t happen.
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    D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

    I say I reckon the 12 months oil service interval is too long as the 3.0s are popping worse than 2.7s. What was LRs reason to extend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldey View Post

    What say ye wise people?
    Unfortunately it’s a known issue with the 3.0ltr V6 Diesel engines, some info here Jaguar Land Rover recall TDV6 engined vehicles

    If yours has a full LR dealer service history I would be putting everything in writing to the dealer AND to LR Customer service.
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    Shocker. Sympathy + Sir

    With more than twice those KM traveled on my D3(s) I'd be scared to take a D4. The sealed for life gear box is a well known issue for our Discos we have due to Landrover trying to meet emission standards I assume. We can at least fix the gear box issue ourselves before it bites us. Just put a new radiator in mine at about 300,000km. I do not mind parts. Engine failure after by the book servicing seem very unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
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    The sealed for life gear box is a well known issue for our Discos we have due to Landrover trying to meet emission standards I assume.
    No one, even LR says the gearbox is sealed for life - the LR service schedule has it at 250,000km or 10 years and much earlier if used in arduous conditions which includes city use. Yes - the interval is far too long but sealed for life is a myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldey View Post
    Yep, happened last weekend on the way back from the beach. Cruising along and then all of a sudden, knock knock knock engine stops. Coast to a stop and hop out and look under the hood. I get my son to start it and there's a wild old bang bang bang in the engine. Shut it off straight away and wait for NRMA to attend though I know in my heart what has happened. No warning signs, no indications on the dash, oil level is fine and no coolant loss or overheating.

    NRMS are none the wiser and speculate that you've got some big end noise there pal, do you think? Towed to the nearest stelaership where a couple of days later (and a few hundred dollars poorer) we get the definite verdict that the crank and/or crank bearings have rotated and on the last attempt to start the motor as part of the diagnosis work the engine locks up permanently, won't even move with a breaker bar on the crank....

    We've had the D4 since November last year and it's been flawless till last weekend. It has just clocked up 160,000kms. The previous owner had the front and rear belts done before we bought it (at 152k kms).

    Now the options that I might need some help with gents:

    • Brand new motor from LR $40k (yeah right );
    • Replacement reco motor using all of our existing ancillaries for less than $20k (concern about our turnbos and injectors??); or
    • Low mileage second hand unit (if I can find one) for maybe about $15k to $20k.


    The other option is we cut our losses and scrap it with the local wreckers (not preferred). At this stage I'm inclined toward a good second hand unit.

    What say ye wise people?
    Very sorry to read this.
    It makes me feel a bit sick actually, with mine at 138,000 klms.
    The other day I stumbled (on E-bay) an advert selling a reco exchange TDV6 3.0 litre from Automotive Skills P/L at Kirrawee Aus, for $9,900
    Their advert seems pretty impressive and well worth a further look.
    Hope this helps.
    Blumers Lawyers might be worth a try as well, as they advertise that they specialise in this sort of thing.
    Worth a letter to LRA I think...... as the engine has done only half its expected life.
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    D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    Very sorry to read this.
    It makes me feel a bit sick actually, with mine at 138,000 klms.
    The other day I stumbled (on E-bay) an advert selling a reco exchange TDV6 3.0 litre from Automotive Skills P/L at Kirrawee Aus, for $9,900
    Their advert seems pretty impressive and well worth a further look.
    Hope this helps.
    Blumers Lawyers might be worth a try as well, as they advertise that they specialise in this sort of thing.
    Worth a letter to LRA I think...... as the engine has done only half its expected life.
    Is on gumtree. I saved it in my watchlist to see what else they put up for sale.

    Rover Sport Discovery 4 TDV6 SDV6 3.0 306DT Reconditioned Engine Sale | Engine, Engine Parts & Transmission | Gumtree Australia Sutherland Area - Kirrawee | 1248323593

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    D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    No one, even LR says the gearbox is sealed for life - the LR service schedule has it at 250,000km or 10 years and much earlier if used in arduous conditions which includes city use. Yes - the interval is far too long but sealed for life is a myth.
    No coincidence that 250K or 10 years would be about the life you can expect if you never service the auto.

    ....hopefully no disrespect to the OP for going off topic. We all feel your pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    Very sorry to read this.
    It makes me feel a bit sick actually, with mine at 138,000 klms.
    From what I've read the failed engines dont seem to be age related failures, they are totally random.
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