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Thread: MT vs AT vs HT in sand

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    I'm with Tombie and Piddler.

    Couple f year ago on Simpson Desert Crossing two of us ran fat Khumo KL71 MT's.

    We ran at 15 psi and appeared to just be doing it so much easier than the others , a mixture of Toyotas/LandRovers/Rangers/Luxes on a mixture of AT tyres.

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    - there's sand..... and then there's sand - all a bit different around the country, and it changes weekly.
    Up here at the moment on the Fraser Island barge entry spit at Inskip Point its air down as far as you dare and give it a "medium/Well" amount of momentum.
    Some other times its "highway pressures and walking pace will do"
    I heard last week the Simpson crossing (French line) is quite easy. But there's some different sand there too.
    But like Red90 said and others have mentioned above - air down is your friend.
    On the same beach over many years, my 300TDi Disco was best with HT - ok with AT, and crap on MT's in the sand.
    The D3 doesn't seem to care too much because its a different beast.
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    The Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac (aggressive A/T) I have on my Vogue at the moment worked well on Fraser Island, even towing a heavy camper trailer. 18 psi all round and no issues at all.

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    The Hankook ATs on our Defender work well on sand aired down to 18-20, but they are tall tyres being 235/85/16s, so airing down produces a looonng footprint.
    Length is better than width I reckon as the weight of the vehicle packs the sand down hard in the wheeltracks.

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    Not a D3 but when I had 255 85 16 bfg mt (good old pattern not the KM2) on my range, at 12 psi in WA summer soft sand they were fantastic!
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
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    Yes,the muddies on the sons Puma do really well in the soft sand,aired down on 18PSi,it just keeps chugging along.

    He just drives around the others that are stuck,the look on their faces is amazing.
    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Length is better than width.
    I’d have to agree with Mick, reminds me of a saying an old tradie taught me when I was a boy “long and thin slips right in”MT vs AT vs HT in sand
    The 235 or 255/85 heaps better on sand than a 285
    The bigger the bow wave of sand your pushing the more fuel your burning MT vs AT vs HT in sand
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    Wide tyres are the go. Floatation tyres.

    Wide tyres provide more floatation so you don't sink in the sand and dont get the big wedge a skinny gives. They also have more tread on the sand for providing drive
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    Now I’m confused
    Two totally contradictory posts
    So what is it fat or skinny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B View Post
    Now I’m confused
    Two totally contradictory posts
    So what is it fat or skinny?
    LOL....

    I’ve done plenty of sand driving....never been stuck, maybe I haven’t been in the absolute softest/super fine sand but to date.

    I’ve had HT, AT and MT....235/85/16, 7.5x16, 10R15 and what ever standard size on a classic rangie.

    In my experience tyre pressures are the main factor.....

    Cannot comment on wide v skinny.

    I do see a lot of lots of different tyres fitted to cars on the beach wide, tall, fat skinny and the majority all cruise around without issue.

    Off all the cars I’ve helped, once I convince them to lower their tyre pressures they generally get going without any assistance.

    back to the OP, I have driven a late model landie on the sand so cannot help on setting.

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