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    You're still in shock! I don't doubt that for one moment. What an absolute disgrace that such an expensive vehicle can destroy the engine when it has such low kays on it. Because of this type of incident I'm in the process of softening up my dearly beloved Cook about getting yet another new car but not, no way, never ever another LR.
    I love driving the thing but the thought of such horrendous damage somewhere far from help is frightening.
    Ours has done less than a 100K and with the very bad depreciation they have I suspect the savings will take a big hit soon....
    What to buy to replace it? Gawd knows at this stage.
    AlanH.

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    Engine Failure on 3.0lt SDV6 help.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATH View Post
    You're still in shock! I don't doubt that for one moment. What an absolute disgrace that such an expensive vehicle can destroy the engine when it has such low kays on it. Because of this type of incident I'm in the process of softening up my dearly beloved Cook about getting yet another new car but not, no way, never ever another LR.
    I love driving the thing but the thought of such horrendous damage somewhere far from help is frightening.
    Ours has done less than a 100K and with the very bad depreciation they have I suspect the savings will take a big hit soon....
    What to buy to replace it? Gawd knows at this stage.
    AlanH.
    Probably infinitely less risk of losing your engine than being in a serious accident when you are away on a trip necessitating recovery. More than one has also caught on fire and burnt to the ground. Disco Inferno. So many disaster options best not to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    I find this very interesting. I had two family members very involved with both CAV and VCAT. Usually, at least around three years ago, a case like yours wouldn't get to VCAT. Vic laws are very strong on Fit for Purpose, and more importantly, Implied Warranty. Usually CAV would deal directly, rather than refer to VCAT.
    Do you have a CAV case number? I reckon you should recontact CAV and ask for a higher up than your first contact to look at the issue. VCAT carries some clout, but it is simply a tribunal, and you are simply a person. It's difficult to get your point across. CAV has far better ways to exert pressure on LR than you do.
    Just my two bob's.

    Good luck. Squeaky wheel, and all that.
    Thanks for your insight I will look into this.

    Glen

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    Quote Originally Posted by link View Post
    we just had the same issue. 125k on the clock, bought from LR used with 35k, regularly serviced - mostly at LR but once elsewhere, just out of warranty. Started making a knocking sound on the way to the grocery store. Made it home and had NRMA come out to take a look and they had it towed to LR. I'm told crankshaft and total engine failure and $50k for a new engine. We have 4 kids and now have to go buy another 7-seater immediately in order to get by. Anyone have any suggestions on the approach to take with LR? I'm just astonished they can be allowed to do this.
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    Engine Failure on 3.0lt SDV6 help.

    Buddy of mine was at his favourite repairer with his RRS and there were 4 cars of the S/TDV6 variety with blown engines. Only one was crank related. The others overheat or bad / no maintenance connected. Repairer said to him “they call me and tell me there were lots of warning lights but I couldn’t stop had to make it home. In the morning it wouldn’t start”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    Buddy of mine was at his favourite repairer with his RRS and there were 4 cars of the TDV6 variety with blown engines. Only one was crank related. The others overheat or bad / no maintenance connected. Repairer said to him “they call me and tell me there were lots of warning lights but I couldn’t stop had to make it home. In the morning it wouldn’t start”.
    When I was in Perth I went with my father in law in his D2 , to what I could assume is a well known indie judging by the amount of land rovers in his workshop and yard, he had a SDV6 D4 which had apparently been serviced by a workshop not familiar with land rovers and the story went along the lines of no dipstick so they just put heaps of oil in it , then a bit more just in case. The result was a blown engine but they were struggling to get a 3.0ltr replacement engine so it was going to be there a while.

    I am sure there is more to that story but end result was another blown 3.0ltr engine.

    Bulletman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletman View Post
    When I was in Perth I went with my father in law in his D2 , to what I could assume is a well known indie judging by the amount of land rovers in his workshop and yard, he had a SDV6 D4 which had apparently been serviced by a workshop not familiar with land rovers and the story went along the lines of no dipstick so they just put heaps of oil in it , then a bit more just in case. The result was a blown engine but they were struggling to get a 3.0ltr replacement engine so it was going to be there a while.

    I am sure there is more to that story but end result was another blown 3.0ltr engine.

    Bulletman
    There's genuine defective goods that are covered under warranty as is the intent of the ACL.

    Then there's stupidity, for which unfortunately there is no warranty.....

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    We bought our 2016 TDV6 brand new with the intention of being our 'keeper' for our retirement. With 40+ years of LR ownership including Defenders, RR Classics (3), RR Sport, Evoque and D3 we consider ourselves pretty loyal to the brand, and happy to maintain beyond the recommended LR levels (eg 10k oils etc.

    Very disturbed to read about the catastrophic engine failures and the described disdain and contempt shown by LR to owners who have experienced.

    As retirees with limited funds we are increasingly anxious about the possibility of being somewhere in our retirement travels and with a blown engine, therefore no car and seemingly no clear action plan.

    With the numerous instances of engine failure described in this forum, (and no doubt many who do not subscribe) is there no generally accepted action plan which has proven successful - eg an engine replacement strategy with contacts (indy not LR) and general idea of costs?

    Or is there an insurance policy available to cover this? We have Roadside Assist and NRMA Premium with extra Kms but nothing which will cover engine replacement.

    Thanks and stay safe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiker View Post
    We bought our 2016 TDV6 brand new with the intention of being our 'keeper' for our retirement. With 40+ years of LR ownership including Defenders, RR Classics (3), RR Sport, Evoque and D3 we consider ourselves pretty loyal to the brand, and happy to maintain beyond the recommended LR levels (eg 10k oils etc.

    Very disturbed to read about the catastrophic engine failures and the described disdain and contempt shown by LR to owners who have experienced.

    As retirees with limited funds we are increasingly anxious about the possibility of being somewhere in our retirement travels and with a blown engine, therefore no car and seemingly no clear action plan.

    With the numerous instances of engine failure described in this forum, (and no doubt many who do not subscribe) is there no generally accepted action plan which has proven successful - eg an engine replacement strategy with contacts (indy not LR) and general idea of costs?

    Or is there an insurance policy available to cover this? We have Roadside Assist and NRMA Premium with extra Kms but nothing which will cover engine replacement.

    Thanks and stay safe!
    You can let eat you up from the inside or just let it slide till it happens or doesn't happen.

    I am at 244000 klm with my 2010 3l TDV6. It has worked hard its whole life towing a big van for a lot of those KLM's It has been serviced every 6 months its whole life....

    But blowing an engine is not the only very expensive issue. And I have had many of those

    Split intake manifolds
    Split Intake Plenum
    Torque Converter slipping
    Rear Drive Shaft
    Failed KVM (smart key module)
    The above all happened to mine.

    The coolant crossover is also an issue that can destroy an engine.
    Oil Leaks Turbo Issues....

    The List goes on

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    Same problem

    Quote Originally Posted by darth View Post
    Hi,
    I had a similar thing happen to me. Similar mileage and same engine. Happy to chat about it.

    Jim
    Hi Jim & Glenn
    I’ve literally had the same thing occur on the weekend. I’d really like to hear what happened to you and whether you were able get anywhere with LR. Are you happy to message offline? I’m being quoted circa $30k to replace the engine and I’m staggered this has happened to a car I brought brand new only 5 years ago. Thanks

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