Thread: 2015 TDV6 Snapped Crank

Originally Posted by Discodicky

Whatever.
Given your comments and perceived bitterness towards the product I'm surprised you lower your standards to work on the blighters.
PS. No one, quote, "consulted a Land Rover engineer", suggest you re read the text.

I can't speak for Darren , but he is just trying to come up with an affordable solution for his customers and if, like me, he does have some bitterness towards this engine it's possibly a combination of bad design , bad manufacturing quality control and cover up at a corporate level.

Such a shame, when they are going well they are a great motor.

Originally Posted by discorevy

yep, overall flow through turbos should be similar as the higher comp of the 2.7 should be offset by the extra capacity of the 3.0.
Have you test fitted a 3.0 intake with 3.0 injector to a 2.7 head in case they've changed anything round that area with the head?
I've probably got a 2.7 and a 3.0 intake around here to compare , but no heads or injectors

Yes I certainly want to look at the two heads and the layout.
The centre oil cooler/filter assembly is different between a 2.7 and a 3.0. The 2.7 uses a metal gasket between the assembly and the block where as the 3.0 uses a series of orings, but the plastic ancillaries look the same, so that may not matter (Justin Cooper over in tassie is very familiar with the cooler assembly in a 3.0)

Also the sump on a 2.7 uses a engine support frame, metal sump, the 3.0 uses a complete frame/sump assembly, again I'm figuring it will all interchange.

By the time I get to actually try all this, someone on here may well have jumped to it

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Such a shame, when they are going well they are a great motor.

Absolutely they run great, just got a replacement engine up and running in a D3 and it just runs spot on in everyway.
It's a great sounding engine and when anyone has been around enough of them you can pick any little variation from one engine to the next.

I've said this plenty of times, a Discovery 4 in any form, drives so well on the road, drives so well off the road, in every way they do it all with such elegance and dare I say perfection when compared to any other vehicle in its class.

My Bro has a LC 200 series (mighty?) Land Cruiser, its actually for a great big tank of a truckster drives quite civilised but a Discovery 4 walks all over it in all situations.

Originally Posted by discorevy

bad manufacturing quality control and cover up at a corporate level.

I reckon that sums it all up there

Originally Posted by discorevy

I can't speak for Darren , but he is just trying to come up with an affordable solution for his customers and if, like me, he does have some bitterness towards this engine it's possibly a combination of bad design , bad manufacturing quality control and cover up at a corporate level.

And in that respect I see & agree with the point.
To an extent, its not what problems a vehicle gives, its more about how the manufacturer responds to fixing them, and historically JLR gets a 100% FAIL in the pub test!
And its due to the Accountants and senior personnel right at the top being so remote from the coal face they have no concept whatsoever as to the extent the manufacturer's future sales are ultimately affected by bad publicity caused by inadequate support of the product.

However after reading and viewing stacks of material on the engine problems it appears to me that no one has come up with a definite 100% certain reason as to why they fail, and therefore I believe it is being a bit unfair and making a huge call to claim they are a badly designed engine, bad manufacturing etc etc. There are plenty around with well in excess of 300,000 klms which have had no problems whatsoever, so they can't be THAT bad!
.... and why can't the case of excessive klms between oil changes be the ONLY cause??? It's quite feasible.

"My Bro has a LC 200 series (mighty?) Land Cruiser, its actually for a great big tank of a truckster drives quite civilised but a Discovery 4 walks all over it in all situations." Oh dear. This vehicle is what my son drives (or used to) and it took 3 years for Tojo to fix the horrendous oil consumption of the engine and fit a new transmission. Bloody thing wouldn't pull out of his driveway after a week of sitting idle while he was off on site. He had to wait for the trans to build up pressure.
Their explanation for both faults were that "it's a hi-tech engine/transmission"!!!!! WTF
His answer was that his 12 year old RR started first time and pulled away immediately after much longer sitting idle. Plus of course he had to spend thousands having the suspension upgraded so that it could legally tow his boat although that didn't matter in the end as marriage forced it's sale....... I'll say nothing more about that.
My name for it was "soft snot" which may have been a bit rude but I liked it.
AlanH.

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

I reckon that sums it all up there

Not the first time for LR,and I doubt its the last.Been going on for many, many years.