Thread: Now we wait as well!

Originally Posted by nixo

Interesting, thanks. No doubt JLR know exactly what's going on.e.

Correct,together with the engine manufacturer and design engineers.

Something was done to the D4 2.7,which was also used in the Territory,to uprate it as there are very few or no known crankshaft issues with the engine in these vehicles.

I don’t know how LR get away with the issue,it’s been going on from 2010 in D4 until now in the D5.
And it also occurred in the D3 2.7L.

Just imagine the uproar in the media if it was happening to a high volume garden variety vehicle.

Originally Posted by PeterOZ

I'd be selling it

Can ya wait till feb

So reading this thread and a few others I’m left wondering if there are definable failure percentages.
Like is this a 1 in a hundred vehicle issue or better or worse
I look at the car now and it almost cowers down like a guilty dog. A catastrophic failure in town is one thing but in the middle of the CSR or the Simpson is very dangerous or prrhaps life threatening to just downright ludicrously expensive. You’ve just added another 5k to the repair

Originally Posted by Turtle60

So reading this thread and a few others I’m left wondering if there are definable failure percentages.

I reckon Land Rover and Ford are the only ones who have real figures, and they are keeping quiet.
The rest is anecdotal bickering.

Originally Posted by BradC

I reckon Land Rover and Ford are the only ones who have real figures, and they are keeping quiet.
The rest is anecdotal bickering.

I watch Hoovies Garage on YouTube and he uses two mechanics for his repairs, Car Wizard and Car Ninja the latter who specialises in BMWs. A lot of Ninja talk centres on how complex and failure prone modern BMWs are requiring expensive tear down repairs for common faults like valve seals and rocker cover gaskets etc. Also, many engines have locked up and discussion around the extended oil service intervals.

Made the LR issues seem small in comparison.

Here’s a sample to watch from about 2:30 as it will make you feel a lot better about LRs.

Here's Why BMW Mechanics Are Richer Than Most BMW Owners - YouTube

I’m currently doing a top end rebuild, timing belt service water pump, sump gasket and every conceivable oring and seal on my brothers a 1989 325i and just like the video what a dream to work on. I remember seeing these cars new in the 80s and thinking only an astrophysicist could work on one but a few bolts and pipes and that’s pretty much it. Heaps of room. Things have changed enormously in 30 years.

Originally Posted by BradC

I reckon Land Rover and Ford are the only ones who have real figures, and they are keeping quiet.
The rest is anecdotal bickering.

Most figures i've read are in the 1-2% range but who knows how close that is or isn't.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Most figures i've read are in the 1-2% range but who knows how close that is or isn't.

Yes agree it’s 1-2 from what I’ve read... but as you say who knows. Best confirmation of the figure is response from JLR South Africa in response to a law suit, they admitted issue affected just under 2%.

The fanboys will have you think this number is so low you don’t have to worry about it much. Really? So you’d be happy to spin the barrel on a 100 chamber revolver with 2 bullets in? 2 in 100 needing a very expensive engine replacement is not insignificant in my book.

The other confirmation of the seriousness of the issue in general is the South Korean government seemly forcing JLR into a recall. Not sure this has fully played out as yet.

Originally Posted by scarry

Correct,together with the engine manufacturer and design engineers.

Something was done to the D4 2.7,which was also used in the Territory,to uprate it as there are very few or no known crankshaft issues with the engine in these vehicles.

I don’t know how LR get away with the issue,it’s been going on from 2010 in D4 until now in the D5.
And it also occurred in the D3 2.7L.

Just imagine the uproar in the media if it was happening to a high volume garden variety vehicle.

Scarry I’ve also heard this. Do you know of any real evidence that supports the theory that the issue is resolved in the 2.7 D4 or is it just anecdotal?