Thread: Now we wait as well!

Originally Posted by BradC

Would it be if you hadn’t had the bearings replaced?

Well that was 10,000km ago. It’s still a good innings before being cared for

Originally Posted by Art

Hmmm....? I wonder what the probability is of my new engine failing again given the first died at 60k?

Should note the data quoted was from 2013.

But if the new engine gets the improvements Ford made to the crank design for the F-150, then the odds should be better than they were with your original engine.

Assuming of course that JLR used the improved rotating components and are not using up old stock.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Should note the data quoted was from 2013.

But if the new engine gets the improvements Ford made to the crank design for the F-150, then the odds should be better than they were with your original engine.

Assuming of course that JLR used the improved rotating components and are not using up old stock.

They won’t be updating it or using new designed components - It’ll be old stock unquestionably. Given the chances of failure are pretty remote (though better chances than first division in the lotto I admit), the chances of owning two engines that fail is pretty unlikely, or statistically speaking - infinitesimally low.

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

They won’t be updating it or using new designed components - It’ll be old stock unquestionably. Given the chances of failure are pretty remote (though better chances than first division in the lotto I admit), the chances of owning two engines that fail is pretty unlikely, or statistically speaking - infinitesimally low.

Sort of. There is just as much chance that the second one will fail as there was the first. ie gambler's fallacy.

Originally Posted by TuffRR

Sort of. There is just as much chance that the second one will fail as there was the first. ie gambler's fallacy.

The statement wasn’t about the engine, but that one person will have two failures in their ownership. This is a case of JOINT probability eg that one person can have two failures, or in other words that one person can roll two sixes in a row.

Roll a die (1 cube) that gives a 6. Then roll a die that again gives 6. Those two events are independent, so we apply JOINT probability (AND condition). The overall probability is the PRODUCT of each independent probabilities.

P(1st die=6) = 1/6 AND P(2nd die=6)

= 1/6 * 1/6 = 1/36 = JOINT probability of rolling a single die 6, two times in succession

My Hyandai Iload engine went very downhill at 200 K's. I then found many other Iloads engines had failed from around 120k's upwards. There were no second hand engine available at that time only new . Rebuilt engines are now available. Had to trade van in to get something else.

Makes Land Rover engines look pretty good compare to Iloads.

Ps only Iloads appeared to have the problem with there first model diesel engine. I had used synthetic oil and got a longer lifespan, those on cheap oils got much less K's

Ian
Bittern

Originally Posted by ian4002000

My Hyandai Iload engine went very downhill at 200 K's. I then found many other Iloads engines had failed from around 120k's upwards. There were no second hand engine available at that time only new . Rebuilt engines are now available. Had to trade van in to get something else.

Makes Land Rover engines look pretty good compare to Iloads.

Ps only Iloads appeared to have the problem with there first model diesel engine. I had used synthetic oil and got a longer lifespan, those on cheap oils got much less K's

Ian
Bittern

You were unlucky, a mate has one that has done over 400 000K's.Probably the later one though.Services it himself.
Had one issue, fuel pick up strainer in tank clogged up with rubbish.
Runs all day, every day, most of the time loaded.

Originally Posted by ian4002000

My Hyandai Iload engine went very downhill at 200 K's. I then found many other Iloads engines had failed from around 120k's upwards. There were no second hand engine available at that time only new . Rebuilt engines are now available. Had to trade van in to get something else.

Makes Land Rover engines look pretty good compare to Iloads.

Ps only Iloads appeared to have the problem with there first model diesel engine. I had used synthetic oil and got a longer lifespan, those on cheap oils got much less K's

Ian
Bittern

Mines a 2013, bought it new, done 240kkm, finally had its first ever issue, turbo kicked the bucket, apparently known issue, that and injector seals on the earlier ones.
Engines are generally really good on these.
If i still worked for myself i'd definitely buy another over any other van on the market.