D4 Engine types - interoperability

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Originally Posted by Ceebrady

Does anyone know if the 3.0 litre can be removed from the discovery 4 with the body still in place? Know of any write ups or videos?

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Yes. Endless videos. Just go to google and, guess what, Google.


It’s not easy, and no sane person would, unless they were broke DIY and had no choice

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Originally Posted by Ceebrady

Hi all,
I am having a deeper look into the engines in the discovery 4s, it seems that there is a 2.7 litre turbo diesel and 2 of 3.0 litre engines (190kW and 155kW). Are the 3.0 engines the same with a different tune, or is there different ancillaries - ie different turbo set up.

I currently own a 2010 d4 which I strongly suspect has seized (it has not made it to the workshop yet), the engine in mine is the 3.0 sequential turbo version 190kW.
I am trying to understand if a 2014 155kW 3.0 can be swapped with minimal fuss.
Also can the 2.7 litre be installed in place of my 3.0 or will that be a ECU setup nightmare?

Thanks for reading, your knowledge, suggestions and links to other threads and information are greatly appreciated.

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My crank recently snapped too. Local indy quoted $24k for engine swap for another sdv6 engine with 87k on it. They advised against rebuild with new crank as when the crank goes it makes a lot of metal fragments which go with oil everywhere throughout the engine including turbo and are very difficult to remove and the cost ends up not much less than engine swap.
In the end I was one of the lucky ones and JLR agreed to provide new long motor and I paid for installation only.
Cheers
Art

How much? They’re taking the ****!

A brand new motor is sub $18k. Fitting at $130/hr will only be a week $4,900

If a rebuilder can’t clear metal during a rebuild they aren’t worth your coin.

What people should be doing is one thing but what are rebuilds, fitted, costing people? I suspect not much change out of $20k plus (whether it should cost less is moot if you can't actually get it done for less)? Cheers

PS. And usually rebuilds get at most 12m limited kilometre warranty so you have to be content with that too...

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Yes. Endless videos. Just go to google and, guess what, Google.


It’s not easy, and no sane person would, unless they were broke DIY and had no choice

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I have seen a fair few write ups on the 2.7 and some videos on the petrol engine with body on, but none specifically on the 3.0 litre engine with body on. I know the engines are different but don’t know how different - external dimensions same/different etc.
the thought is to remove a used engine from a donor wreck this way and have the Indi change over in my vehicle.

What have people paid for the labour component for an engine change over in the D4?

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Originally Posted by Ceebrady

I have seen a fair few write ups on the 2.7 and some videos on the petrol engine with body on, but none specifically on the 3.0 litre engine with body on. I know the engines are different but don’t know how different - external dimensions same/different etc.
the thought is to remove a used engine from a donor wreck this way and have the Indi change over in my vehicle.

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You could fit an engine from a wreck and have same problem only weeks, months, or a year later!
Just because it's new to you doesn't make it a "new" engine so to speak.
You'd certainly need to know the SH engine's full service history and be satisfied that it was in excellent order.

You'd be far better off spending the extra coin and going a reco or new engine, otherwise you could find yourself paying twice for the job.
Once you have gotten over the initial shock of the extra expense for the new engine at least you'll have peace of mind and your wallet will be feeling better by knowing that your engine will last a whole lot longer than any SH engine would.

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Originally Posted by Ceebrady

What have people paid for the labour component for an engine change over in the D4?

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I'd be keen to hear more on this too!

Also has anyone had third party extended warranty plans that have covered such failures?

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Originally Posted by Birdboy

I'd be keen to hear more on this too!

Also has anyone had third party extended warranty plans that have covered such failures?

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Most 3rd party warranties have a $3k cap.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Most 3rd party warranties have a $3k cap.

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Thanks Tombie!
I was looking at the Eric one - Used Car Warranties | Motor Vehicle Warranty Insurance | eric
top cover doesn't seem to have a limit beyond overall vehicle value?
Apologies for hijacking this thread - just put a deposit down on a 2016 D4 and wondering what to do!