D4 engine choice

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Originally Posted by scarry

And a lot of headaches.[tonguewink]

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Well, yes and no.

In the local newspaper last Sunday was a big article about the (stupidly outrageous) prices some people are paying for 200 Series Landcruisers; new, near new, or very low klms.

Fools seem paranoid the new 300 series will be a retrograde step from the 200 as it is "only" a 6 cyl.

Examples were cited and it seems people are prepared to pay circa $150-170k for a new 'cruiser, just to get a 200 series!

I'll bet their values don't remain as proportionally high when their friendly Dealer offers them a trade-in price in a few years time.

My point is that you could completely re-furbish, engine/trans/diffs/suspension etc etc on a D3/4 for much less than half that price and still have a nicer car than the cruiser.
Well, in my opinion anyway, and I have driven the latest model cruiser.

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Originally Posted by Discodicky

My point is that you could completely re-furbish, engine/trans/diffs/suspension etc etc on a D3/4 for much less than half that price and still have a nicer car than the cruiser.
Well, in my opinion anyway, and I have driven the latest model cruiser.

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Sure,you could do that, but if you can't do the work yourself, the costs would well out weigh the economics of doing the job.

And then you still end up with an old vehicle that will more than likely be unreliable and continually need work.

Anyway,whatever the OP or anyone wants to do.

Yes the 200 prices are absolutely ridiculous,and I am sure a V8 diesel in a few years time will be worth bugga all.
The silly thing is there are quite a few new ones now at dealers, cheaper than what some paid recently for 2nd hand.[bighmmm]
And no doubt the new model will be way better than the 200 in every way.

Sure the D3/4 handles and rides way better than the 200,nothing beats EAS,and IS all corners.With TR,it is also more capable, in some situations.
But in many other areas, the 200,IMHO,is way ahead.
Just my 2 cents worth, after owning both.

I disagree. I bet there will be a nostalgia factor to the v8 200 series that it’ll command more money for a long time. It’s no different to air cooled Porsches. Water cooled were more reliable and higher power output but they weren’t “true” like the 200’ers will think of anything less than the v8. I think there’s a money to be saved in that car - if you consider you could use it for five years and suffer little depreciation

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

I bet there will be a nostalgia factor to the v8 200 series that it’ll command more money for a long time. It’s no different to air cooled Porsches.

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And no different to the old Defender - no one was buying them new and used prices were ordinary until announcement was made that production would cease in 2016 - immediately sales of new Defenders increased and used prices started to skyrocket and are still going up.

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

I disagree. I bet there will be a nostalgia factor to the v8 200 series that it’ll command more money for a long time. It’s no different to air cooled Porsches. Water cooled were more reliable and higher power output but they weren’t “true” like the 200’ers will think of anything less than the v8. I think there’s a money to be saved in that car - if you consider you could use it for five years and suffer little depreciation

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You could be right if you look at what a good 100 series is worth at the moment,or even a good 80.

But the issue is there are a lot more 200 series around than,as an example,an old model Defender.

And everyone knew the new Defender would be a totally new animal,nothing like the old one,that was the end of an era,so that adds value.

I have owned my D4 from new in 2010. Oil and service every 6 months we are currently at 240k

The Gearbox serviced at around 60k intervals
4 Struts replaced at 150k
Front control arms at 190k

Whats gone wrong?

1. Manifold split. Replaced both and the coolant crossover (200k)
2. AC Compressor Failure (210k)
3. Main Prop shaft center bearing (220K)
4. Torque Converter replaced at (230k)
5. Intake Plenum split
6. The Rear air needs a new mixing valve to do

I keep fixing it because its still cheaper than replacing it. It has been setup for touring with a long range tank, I have the GOE 18's
I am lucky my neighbor is a Land Rover Specialist so repairs and servicing aren't to crazy in price.

And because I am a bit crazy I just brought a 2008 TDV8 Range Rover Vouge. It had 97000k on it when I picked it up. It is a bloody awesome thing to drive. The BIG what IF is why Land Rover never put a TDV8 in the D3 or D4.

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Originally Posted by mowog

I have owned my D4 from new in 2010. Oil and service every 6 months we are currently at 240k

The Gearbox serviced at around 60k intervals
4 Struts replaced at 150k
Front control arms at 190k

Whats gone wrong?

1. Manifold split. Replaced both and the coolant crossover (200k)
2. AC Compressor Failure (210k)
3. Main Prop shaft center bearing (220K)
4. Torque Converter replaced at (230k)
5. Intake Plenum split
6. The Rear air needs a new mixing valve to do

I keep fixing it because its still cheaper than replacing it. It has been setup for touring with a long range tank, I have the GOE 18's
I am lucky my neighbor is a Land Rover Specialist so repairs and servicing aren't to crazy in price.

And because I am a bit crazy I just brought a 2008 TDV8 Range Rover Vouge. It had 97000k on it when I picked it up. It is a bloody awesome thing to drive. The BIG what IF is why Land Rover never put a TDV8 in the D3 or D4.

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JRA sends me a PR email every few weeks with various articles, mainly concerning the new Deefer and Disco's, probably in the hope I'll buy a new one soon....
Just rec'd today's and has an interesting article about Trevor Howard and his (looks like it is a 2008 or 9?) RRS with the TDV8 engine.
Has done 11 trips across the Nullabor, numerous trips from Broome to Fremantle etc etc.
Current mileage is 860,000 klms......
I'd love to know if the engine is original.
I had a 2009 RRS with the TDV8 and it is a superb engine.

There was a recent article of a D3 with a confirmed 760,000km. 2nd engine and 3rd transmission or something like that.

Here’s the article.

News – EPIC ADVENTURES IN THE UNBREAKABLE RANGE ROVER TDV8 | SUV and 4WD - Land Rover(R) Australia

That might have been 'character' off the disco3.co.uk forum. He had 471,000 miles (758,000 kms) on his D3, before the engine let go and he decided it wasn't worth fixing it.
My D3 is still a fair way off both of those at only 533,000kms...

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