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    Bought my D4 with 88,000km on the odo. At 125000km the front LCAs were done, replaced with genuine LR units, albeit apparently a revised design? Now at 216000km and they need doing again. This time I've bought Meyle HD items and will DIY. The consensus appears to be that around 100,000km is expected wear life of the lower hydra-bush.

    IMHO they should not fail at 25-35,000 km, clearly something wrong at install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE View Post

    IMHO they should not fail at 25-35,000 km, clearly something wrong at install.
    Except that mine were on a new vehicle not a replacement set. I presume the factory knew how to assemble them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by letherm View Post
    Except that mine were on a new vehicle not a replacement set. I presume the factory knew how to assemble them.

    Martin
    Perhaps thou doth presume too much....

    But seriously, that is a fair point, original equipment can fail as you say, they are all mass produced componentry.

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    UPDATE

    On Friday I was phoned by my local Indy shop to tell me Rovaspares are going to replace the shagged LCAs with a new set under warranty.
    That’s good to hear. But still doesn’t answer the question of why they were flogged out after only about 25,000km with only Highway kms, no off road.
    I don’t doubt they are buggered, on my drive to Perth from Dunsborough on Friday there was noticeable steering wheel vibration under brakes at highway speed, and it’s not the pads or rotors, the car had new ceramic pads installed only on Thursday. That’s when the mechanic discovered the LCAs were done for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMilner View Post
    On Friday I was phoned by my local Indy shop to tell me Rovaspares are going to replace the shagged LCAs with a new set under warranty.
    That’s good to hear. But still doesn’t answer the question of why they were flogged out after only about 25,000km with only Highway kms, no off road.
    I don’t doubt they are buggered, on my drive to Perth from Dunsborough on Friday there was noticeable steering wheel vibration under brakes at highway speed, and it’s not the pads or rotors, the car had new ceramic pads installed only on Thursday. That’s when the mechanic discovered the LCAs were done for.
    I think yours can be explained by poor alignment. After doing mine today, I think the actual fit up is not too hard, but I think the trick is in the correct alignment and setting the bolts to the correct torque. There is about 20-25 mm lateral movement in the slotted holes where they mount, plus then the eccentric washers, this combined creates a multitude of angles possible for (mis)alignment. I will be taking mine to a LR alignment specialist that my indie uses, and make sure they align to spec AND set the bolt torque correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE View Post
    I think yours can be explained by poor alignment. After doing mine today, I think the actual fit up is not too hard, but I think the trick is in the correct alignment and setting the bolts to the correct torque. There is about 20-25 mm lateral movement in the slotted holes where they mount, plus then the eccentric washers, this combined creates a multitude of angles possible for (mis)alignment. I will be taking mine to a LR alignment specialist that my indie uses, and make sure they align to spec AND set the bolt torque correct.
    Or were the LCA bolts not tightened fully with the the suspension jacked to give the dimension of 466mm from the centre of the half shaft to the edge of the fender trim. If this is not done the bushes will not last long. Nick
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    Bit of talk about alignment - had mine adjusted the other week, and the bloke tells me the LCAs are rooted (25k old). Was also perplexed by the ‘suspension not in customer mode’ warning on the dash (I had put it into TTM on arrival)

    LCAs later confirmed by indie as being ‘as new’ :-)

    Leads me to my question - is there an alignment place in Perth anyone can recommended?
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    I go to integrity tyres in Wangara. They do all the alignment work for Dovers Rovers.

    They do all series LR and all Discovery variants. They have the proper alignment equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE View Post
    I think yours can be explained by poor alignment. After doing mine today, I think the actual fit up is not too hard, but I think the trick is in the correct alignment and setting the bolts to the correct torque. There is about 20-25 mm lateral movement in the slotted holes where they mount, plus then the eccentric washers, this combined creates a multitude of angles possible for (mis)alignment. I will be taking mine to a LR alignment specialist that my indie uses, and make sure they align to spec AND set the bolt torque correct.

    Mmm...poor alignment. But I doubt it. I had the alignment done, properly in TTM, last time the LCA's were replaced in May 2020, and the car has tracked perfectly ever since. Well, until recently anyway, when the LCAs started to deteriorate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    Or were the LCA bolts not tightened fully with the the suspension jacked to give the dimension of 466mm from the centre of the half shaft to the edge of the fender trim. If this is not done the bushes will not last long. Nick
    Nick do you know what the recommended torque figure is for those bolts? And when you say 'jacked', I presume you mean the suspension has to be jacked till that dimension is precisely 466mm?

    I would have thought Dave the Indy would know all this, since they've been Land Rover specialists for years.
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