Why do 2.7 cranks break?

Agree.

And it’s always good practice to get engine warm before dropping the oil.
My opinion is that by doing so, everything starts that bit easier post change too, which all helps.

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

For sure it’s double the time of a normal start up after an oil and filter change for me but measured in seconds though.

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Yep - feels like an eternity when you consider that until the oil filter and housing refills that the crank bearings are getting no oil.

Probably a good 10-20 revolutions that the bearings are relying on a very thin film of residual oil.

Pity that the oil filter can’t be pre-charged with oil.

Whilst regular oil changes are good, you certainly want to avoid doing too frequent oil and filter changes.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Whilst regular oil changes are good, you certainly want to avoid doing too frequent oil and filter changes.

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Why?

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Yep - feels like an eternity when you consider that until the oil filter and housing refills that the crank bearings are getting no oil.

Probably a good 10-20 revolutions that the bearings are relying on a very thin film of residual oil.

Pity that the oil filter can’t be pre-charged with oil.

Whilst regular oil changes are good, you certainly want to avoid doing too frequent oil and filter changes.

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At least presumably the oil that drops out of the filter when you remove it falls down the galleries and over the crank bearings.

These engines seem to have almost zero problems with pistons rings or the top end in general due to any oil starvation.

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Originally Posted by DieselLSE

Why?

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Because until the system has oil pressure again you could be getting metal on metal contact and this is when the chances of spinning a bearing are at their highest.

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Originally Posted by incisor

penrite oil recommendation for the ford 2.7l tdci

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penrite oil recommendation for the landrover 2.7l tdv6

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both meet fords wss-m2913-b spec which is the original ford spec in 2012 but their oil specs website states that these days wss-m2913-d should be used where -b was originally recommended

penrite oil recommended -d oil

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which is what my old vw 1.9l diesel caddy used and is the slipperiest oil i ever got on my hands over the years [biggrin]

oils aint oils it seems

is confusing as hell

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Inc, now that you are a proud owner of a Disco powered Ford (yes I know it is the Disco that is Ford powered)….

Can you confirm exactly what spec oil Ford require for the 2.7 and if they specify the ACEA spec or just a Ford spec.

Also what is the oil change frequency (kms and months)?

So it gets entertaining.

Ford Territory 27
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And LR 27
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And Puma Defender
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So for simplicity in oil stocks at my place it’s the:
Full synthetic 5W-30 at our place.

Enviro is really only for DPF vehicles of which neither mine have.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Inc, now that you are a proud owner of a Disco powered Ford (yes I know it is the Disco that is Ford powered)….

Can you confirm exactly what spec oil Ford require for the 2.7 and if they specify the ACEA spec or just a Ford spec.

Also what is the oil change frequency (kms and months)?

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from the handbook - Ford WSS-M2C913-B

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i go by what penrite recommend for vehicles out of warranty as mine has 112000 klms on the clock which is also to spec Ford WSS-M2C913-B but ACEA A3/B4 not ACEA A5/B5 which appeals to me personally knowing the history of the engines

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PS
first thing i did when i got the vehicle home was put this oil and a new mann oil filter into it

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every 15000 klms or 12 months

severe service is 7500 klms

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By comparison, this is from the Citroen C6 2005 Handbook. In this case the diesel is the 2.7 without DPF.

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Interesting that for “temperate” to “hot” climates they recommend a Semi Synthetic 10W-40 oil to ACEA B3 spec.

For most of us here in Australia, the HPR 5 or HPR Diesel 5 looks to be the best choice.