Why do 2.7 cranks break?

So here’s something interesting;

Outback Discovery with an early D3 has just lost his engine due to a broken tensioner / oil pump.

OIL PUMP FAILURE, DIAGNOSIS. ford territory engine replacement part 1 - YouTube

Almost unheard of these days anymore and something he thought had been changed.

Since this is a high km well maintained early 2.7 that has an intact bottom end ‘and’ with an original oil pump I’ve asked him to pull the bearings to see if there is any wear especially on the inner two.

Then we can compare with what LRTime is doing now.

I’m not sure if Outback Discovery is on Aulro but another excellent video supplier.

Also if he can have a look at the harmonic balancer and see if its flogged out or OK, someone else suggested that could be a source

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Originally Posted by econti

Also if he can have a look at the harmonic balancer and see if its flogged out or OK, someone else suggested that could be a source

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They don't have a balancer as such just a pulley for the timing belt with holes for the serpentine belt pulley and there is no keyway.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

They don't have a balancer as such just a pulley for the timing belt with holes for the serpentine belt pulley and there is no keyway.

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The accessory pulley on the crankshaft has a damper built into it. This is made with rubber and would be expected to deteriorate with time.

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

So here’s something interesting;

Outback Discovery with an early D3 has just lost his engine due to a broken tensioner / oil pump.

OIL PUMP FAILURE, DIAGNOSIS. ford territory engine replacement part 1 - YouTube

Almost unheard of these days anymore and something he thought had been changed.

Since this is a high km well maintained early 2.7 that has an intact bottom end ‘and’ with an original oil pump I’ve asked him to pull the bearings to see if there is any wear especially on the inner two.

Then we can compare with what LRTime is doing now.

I’m not sure if Outback Discovery is on Aulro but another excellent video supplier.

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I was watching the video and thinking I wonder if this is the guy that phoned me last week I think. As he mentioned me in the video part of the info I did tell him to get a AULRO subscription as it will be the best dollars he will spend on his Land Rover.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

I was watching the video and thinking I wonder if this is the guy that phoned me last week I think. As he mentioned me in the video part of the info I did tell him to get a AULRO subscription as it will be the best dollars he will spend on his Land Rover.

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He was asking about sources of engines on the facebook pages - I may have dropped your name there as a possible source[bighmmm]

DIY line bore diesel engine block - Ford Lion TDV6 - Land Rover Discovery 3 - YouTube

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Originally Posted by Bohica

DIY line bore diesel engine block - Ford Lion TDV6 - Land Rover Discovery 3 - YouTube

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The interesting takeaway is that due to heat expansion the two inside damaged shells are being sized back to spec for original, not OS shells to be used.

Crank will be reused

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes like oil pumps - go top a Ford dealer and buy a Territory oil pump and it comes in a Ford bag but all the seals etc are in Land Rover bags and the lot costs somewhere around $170 retail. Go to a LR supplier and buy a D3 oil pump and it comes in a Ford bag but all the seals etc are in Land Rover bags and the lot costs somewhere around $470 retail.

Now I am sure Daz would not do this, but I am sure many LR supplier source their oil pumps from Ford but charge the LR price to their unsuspecting clients.

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Honestly, I simply don't have time to order a part from the local Ford dealer that wont have it in stock anyway and then have to go and collect it.
I use genuine or OEM, I also source who makes it and where it is made. (harder than you might think). I do buy some Ford parts from a Ford dealer on ebay as the Ford version is 5 times less in price, I charge the Ford price.

I do 3 or 4 order a week to the U.K to keep myself stocked up

Make a cup of tea, sit back, turn on subtitles and enjoy further hypothesising. It’s a doozie as this guy knows his stuff.

Excellent video actually with a treasure trove of PSA Lion TDV6 info. At least we don’t have the vacuum operated intake flaps.

Note also when he has the coolant crossover in his hand at 15:20 it is actually a thermostat on the Jaguar, Citroen and Peugeot twin turbo versions. That explains where that reference came from.

???? ?? ??????! ??? ?? ??? ? ??????? 2.7 HDI ??? "?????????", Jaguar ? Land Rover? - YouTube