D5, Defender 110 or LC300

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Originally Posted by Tombie

To quote Robert P:

Life’s to short to drive boring cars.

You need to enjoy your time behind the wheel, not feel it’s a chore.

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This is why many of us drive series landovers, 101's, unimogs and various jap 4WD utes that don't have the bells, whistles and creature comforts in them.
Maybe its something about the fact that you can take these through the bush withut worrying about scratching the duco or if one of the many electronics on board is about to kark it that holds our appeal and gives us so much enjoyment[biggrin]

Luxury cars ARE nice to drive But they are not much Fun off road.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

This is why many of us drive series landovers, 101's, unimogs and various jap 4WD utes that don't have the bells, whistles and creature comforts in them.
Maybe its something about the fact that you can take these through the bush withut worrying about scratching the duco or if one of the many electronics on board is about to kark it that holds our appeal and gives us so much enjoyment[biggrin]

Luxury cars ARE nice to drive But they are not much Fun off road.

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Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I certainly considered the HSE D4 to be luxury when I got it, still do really, and it's definitely been off-road and fun, but I understand where you're coming from, so I guess we just agree.[emoji106][emoji4][emoji12]

(Geeeezz, how good was that political spin BS, [emoji1787] I am a discrace)

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Originally Posted by PeterJ

Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I certainly considered the HSE D4 to be luxury when I got it, still do really, and it's definitely been off-road and fun, but I understand where you're coming from, so I guess we just agree.[emoji106][emoji4][emoji12]

(Geeeezz, how good was that political spin BS, [emoji1787] I am a discrace)

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For me my D2a was a luxury 4WD But it is nowhere near as much fun as my 79 series to drive in the rough stuff , It also doesn't have the "Ear Candy" that the big stainless exhaust sytem on the 4.5l V8 puts out either[biggrin][bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by trout1105

For me my D2a was a luxury 4WD But it is nowhere near as much fun

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"Fun"

Read: "violent" [emoji1]

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

They take the best designers from the refrigerator market by the looks. Chest freezer specialists mainly.

I still have to squint and partially look away when I see the last Prado front end.

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I reckon Prado front ends have been butt ugly ever since the 120 series first came out (and I've had a 90 series, four 120's and one 150 series - all work vehicles). [biggrin]

I recently travelled from Port Augusta to Adelaide in the back seat of an upmarket model 200 series. Was the most uncomfortable ride I've had in a long time. I know two people here in Kalgoorlie who have recently purchased new (and quite flash / expensive) 200 series because of the long waiting list for the 300 series. Both regret their decision, with one already looking to sell his and replace it with a Patrol. The other is seriously considering replacing his with a Defender - he has had a drive of my (2011) D4 and says he likes it much better than driving his new 200 series. The only drawback with the Defender is the lack of room in the back. My D4 is better in that respect, and a 200 series absolutely kills the Defender here.

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Originally Posted by BMKal

The only drawback with the Defender is the lack of room in the back. My D4 is better in that respect, and a 200 series absolutely kills the Defender here.

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Apparently the 130 defender is supposed to address that issue.

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Originally Posted by PeterJ

Simple example running around the traps last year was the $30k difference in price between the Y62 and LC200, if I recall correctly the the LC200 had to get to 400,000km to break even with the fuel costs/economy equation.
It was a John Cadogan piece I think and while it is now a bit out of date with respect to the numbers, the principal is still valid.]

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Not really correct as the owner will get a fair swag of that $30K or whatever back when it’s sold.

More to the point will a V8 Diesel have good resale in 5 to 10 yrs?

I wouldn’t think so.

The 130:can’t come quick enough,for a touring wagon,the rear load area is so small in the 110.

As I have said before,going from a D4 for us,to the 110,just wasn’t on with that room issue.
But I bet the 130 when it eventually turns up has a huge price jump over the 110.

2 year wait time for a new Defender? I think I am back to Square 1 !

Only a few dealer second hand ones around too...carsales.com.au

Way too dear for a D300, but does have a lot of fruit...

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Originally Posted by Barraman

2 year wait time for a new Defender? I think I am back to Square 1 !

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I'd go for a Grenadier. Surely it's wait time wouldn't be 2 years?