And our vehicle market is absolutely tiny compared to Europe. So I would be guessing manufacturers aren't going out of their way just for us.
I was chatting with an engineer from the fiat group last year when doing a job at his house, he had since returned to Australia after working o/s for 25 years, he said our car market here is far to small for manufacturers to care about.
The price difference P400 S > P400 SE is about $12k I played the option game with my P400 S and ended up with a good spec. I did a side by side compare on the same build there is nothing I see in SE that I will actually miss. The 20" wheels well someone will have a set of those for sale at a good price thats if I decide I want them.
Been mulling this one over for quite some time as well. The list in no particular order is
1) $ $$ into the D4 and just enjoy the best vehicle I have ever owned.
2) Y62 plus $$$ to make it fit for purpose.
3) Defender 110/130
4) RAM 1500 plus $ to make it fit for purpose.
5) LC200/300 - Not on the list simply because the Y62 was a better cost based solution if that was the type of vehicle chosen.
I have been touring and towing for quite a while and to get the usable space in the D4 out comes the 2nd and 3rd row seats and in goes purpose built storage and this is also the problem with 1, 2, & 3 above and something I am really over. I just want the cargo not in the passenger space.
Every solution is a balancing act for me not least of which is heart or head, but in the end I needed increased payload, comfortable margins on GVM, GCM, Fr & Rr Axle loads and TBW, this was the non-negotiable list. What ever vehicle you choose do your numbers very carefully, the manufacturers live to confuse (if not deceive), I suggest you take the vehicle(s) to the weigh bridge and get real numbers on which to start your number crunching, trust me it become a sobering experience.
Did not care particularly about diesel/petrol but a diet of 98 RON was a big problem for places we go, so if petrol it had to be able to eat 91 RON.
Have fun![]()
Sounds like a single cab 79 Series ute with a canopy would be a perfect match for your needs.in the end I needed increased payload, comfortable margins on GVM, GCM, Fr & Rr Axle loads and TBW, this was the non-negotiable list. What ever vehicle you choose do your numbers very carefully, the manufacturers live to confuse (if not deceive), I suggest you take the vehicle(s) to the weigh bridge and get real numbers on which to start your number crunching, trust me it become a sobering experience.![]()
You only get one shot at life, Aim well
2004 D2 "S" V8 auto, with a few Mods gone
2007 79 Series Landcruiser V8 Ute, With a few Mods.
4.6m Quintrex boat
20' Jayco Expanda caravan gone
If you want "Civilised" then you are fresh out of luck for your GVM requirements and carrying capacity with the new breed of luxury 4WD's.
Not too many of those can carry 1000kg+, tow 3.5t and have masses of room to cart every thing you want as well and still be legal.
Good luck with your quest![]()
You only get one shot at life, Aim well
2004 D2 "S" V8 auto, with a few Mods gone
2007 79 Series Landcruiser V8 Ute, With a few Mods.
4.6m Quintrex boat
20' Jayco Expanda caravan gone
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