New Engine or Reconditioned Engine

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BradC

Best estimates I was able to find in estimated sales figures was about ~3000 Discos a year sold. So let's say 2005-2016 at 3k per year is 33,000 D3 & D4 combined. 0.01% of that is 3.3. Even one failure a year is ~0.03% and I've certainly heard of more than one a year.

Still 68.75% of statistics are made up anyway.

Stats are stats but at the end of the day it'll either break or it won't. Every time I get in the car and turn the key I ask myself "will it get me home or will it lunch a second engine"?

---

And mate that last point is the biggie for an owner. If you are someone who couldn't care less and doesn't have the thought more power too you but I am like you and would have such thought. Not that i am a huge fan on the 'new' shape Discos anyway but would still probably have gone to one were it not for the issues with the diesel. Cheers

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BradC

Best estimates I was able to find in estimated sales figures was about ~3000 Discos a year sold. So let's say 2005-2016 at 3k per year is 33,000 D3 & D4 combined. 0.01% of that is 3.3. Even one failure a year is ~0.03% and I've certainly heard of more than one a year.

Still 68.75% of statistics are made up anyway.

Stats are stats but at the end of the day it'll either break or it won't. Every time I get in the car and turn the key I ask myself "will it get me home or will it lunch a second engine"?

---

• Land Rover global sales by model 2013-2019 | Statista

X 10
But hard to break out diesels

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

• Land Rover global sales by model 2013-2019 | Statista

X 10
But hard to break out diesels

---

I can’t get that site to make any sense on my iPad, but are you telling me land rover sold 30,000 discos a year in Australia? I find that hard to believe.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BradC

I can’t get that site to make any sense on my iPad, but are you telling me land rover sold 30,000 discos a year in Australia? I find that hard to believe.

---

No. I think it’s world wide and would include all variants

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BradC

Best estimates I was able to find in estimated sales figures was about ~3000 Discos a year sold. So let's say 2005-2016 at 3k per year is 33,000 D3 & D4 combined. 0.01% of that is 3.3. Even one failure a year is ~0.03% and I've certainly heard of more than one a year.

Still 68.75% of statistics are made up anyway.

Stats are stats but at the end of the day it'll either break or it won't. Every time I get in the car and turn the key I ask myself "will it get me home or will it lunch a second engine"?

---

The two local Indies around here are doing them all the time,but hard to know exact numbers,i recon at least 1%,which is what most Indies say as well.
Then there are the failures under warranty.

D4 sold at around 2000 per year,it's last year being the highest amount which was around 2400.Includes 2.7L,early on,but not many of them sold.

Just for info , in discussion with Rick's ( Gold Coast Specialist) wife Debbie I asked how many D4 engines they had replaced. She said 5. Now I would doubt that they would have over 100 D4s on their books so that implies maybe 5% or even more which is to me scary.
Asked about inlet manifolds, she said "HEAPS"
Regards PhilipA

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Just for info , in discussion with Rick's ( Gold Coast Specialist) wife Debbie I asked how many D4 engines they had replaced. She said 5. Now I would doubt that they would have over 100 D4s on their books so that implies maybe 5% or even more which is to me scary.
Asked about inlet manifolds, she said "HEAPS"
Regards PhilipA

---

Thats probably closer to the mark.

There was a tech(could be on here i dunno) at MR Auto,who left and worked at LR head office for a while in the warranty section,then returned to MR.
This was probably around 5 or 6 yrs ago.
He told me he was amazed at the huge number of engine failures coming through under warranty.

But what to replace the D4 with? A question facing many worried owners I suspect. New Defender? Not for me or the wife, awful looking thing and possible a dubious engine in that as well. D5 the same.
New Prado or Everest? Who knows. I'm looking that's all I can say but whether I actually do anything ..... :)
AlanH.

Yep the big question, what do I replace a D4 with?
i am currently one month into a 3 month trip towing 2.5 ton van with the car fully loaded
it sits perfectly flat on the road, not like 90 % of the tow cars that have the front 3 inches to high and the back 3 inches to low , I get perfect comfort, effortless towing, quiet in the car a great sound system and about 4 l / 100km better economy than the cruiser we are travelling with.
All that in a standard 4wd without a single mod, not like most that get new suspension every 60,000km aftermarket stereo added sound proofing, new seats and a brake upgrade.
The crank issue is a concern but it’s either that of drive a car that in every other respect is nowhere near as good
So what do I replace it with?
before you bought this car I considered a 79 with h about 60k worth of mods but it hen I drove a couple, no thanks

I suppose it depends entirely on priorities and appetite for pain when it goes wrong versus pain in another vehicle in terms of not towing quite a nicely. Cheers