Does my oil pump need changing?

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Yes - that is the number you are looking for.

This link below is from Jefferson Ford in Victoria, but I would contact your local Ford dealer to see if they have in stock so you can look at and confirm what version pump it is. At the same time you can measure the impeller thickness and make sure it is the upgraded version.

The last of the JLR updates to the pump was for the 3.0TDV6 which Ford did not use in the Territory, so you just want to make sure the Ford stock is not old stock prior to the latest updates. It is the same pump, just depends on when the local dealer bought the stock - but you would expect they have the latest updated version.

Ford Oil Engine Pump Assembly For Territory Sz/Sz Mkii

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I'd say the risk of old stock is low, as most dealers nowadays don't keep much more than consumables as stock, due to bean counters seeing parts on shelves as dead money.

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Originally Posted by Gravy

If I have the misfortune to need this resource i would definitely be "Loctiting" those plate attachment fasteners based upon the content of previous posts.

Are there any definitive performance specs for the different version pumps? Be informative to have values for pressures and flows produced especially for the revised impeller model.

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Utube is my friend, its LR Time is the resource to provide this information. Also provides an explanation to stay clear of the Russian Version.

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Originally Posted by Davetd5

Hi Folks,
Just bought a D3 TDV6 SE with 206,000km. What an amazing difference from the D2a that served us for 14 years - smooth and powerful in comparison.
Getting a tune at TRS this week and taking time in checking over the basics.
My question is whether I need to change the oil pump? Its a 4/08 build, it had the timing belt done in 2018 at 166,000km so its done 40k since then, but there's no record whether the oil pump was done.
Is there a way to check if it has the upgraded pump without pulling it all apart? If in doubt I'll do it, but I'd like to know what I've got there first.
Thanks Dave

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I had my timing belts changes when it was 156,000km but they didn't change the oil pump. Does it need to be replaced part of the timing belt change? what is the issue with the old oil pump? Sorry still new to D4. Thanks

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Originally Posted by fourteen8

I had my timing belts changes when it was 156,000km but they didn't change the oil pump. Does it need to be replaced part of the timing belt change? what is the issue with the old oil pump? Sorry still new to D4. Thanks

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Not an issue on the D4.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I'd say the risk of old stock is low, as most dealers nowadays don't keep much more than consumables as stock, due to bean counters seeing parts on shelves as dead money.

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Prior my retirement and when I was in the earthmoving industry, our Parts Dept would get notice of updated parts (say, an oil pump) and we'd be sent the new updated oil pump in the next fortnightly Stock Order from HO.

We'd have to destroy the superceded (oil pump) by damaging it so it was not possible to use it, forward relevant photographs of the destroyed oil pump back to Head Office Parts Manager and chuck it in the bin.

It also applied to "dead" stock such as an oil/air filter which had been sitting on the shelf for a year or two due to no further sales demand. We'd get the directive from HO and so punch a screwdriver through the filter, take a photo then turf it to the bin.

The photos were 'proof' to the Tax Man that the part/s had been written off in accordance to the Tax Dept's rules.

I wonder if that process is done in the Auto Industry. If so, then I guess one can purchase new parts in full confidence that they are the latest.

When I've read guys having repeat inlet manifold failures I've often wondered if they've been given the latest updated manifolds.....

Here's what my friendly parts guy said about a Territory oil pump. Part Number is listed as FO-4R8Z 6600A. Haven't opened the box yet to see if it has the thicker impellor but I assume so

Good morning Dave, See attached quote

There was a break point on the parts around 2014 so he has quoted the later options.

Have a look & see if this is the one you are looking for. If so, he can get ex melb in a day or so

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Originally Posted by Davetd5

Here's what my friendly parts guy said about a Territory oil pump. Part Number is listed as FO-4R8Z 6600A. Haven't opened the box yet to see if it has the thicker impellor but I assume so

Good morning Dave, See attached quote

There was a break point on the parts around 2014 so he has quoted the later options.

Have a look & see if this is the one you are looking for. If so, he can get ex melb in a day or so

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Thats the part number i fitted in mine in 2020, $144 from the dealer.