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    Dead at Wauchope - fuel temperature sensor

    Day 1 of our extended round Australia trip we are sitting on the side of the Oxley Highway with a fuel temperature sensor fault. Started off with P0184-27 and P0183-17. I pulled the connector on the sensor and it was full of oil or most probably diesel. Cleaned it up and was able to continue for a while but faults returned and went into limp mode. Now also getting P0087-00, P000E-22 and P117D-00.
    Any insights or experience with this issue.
    Any good indi workshops in Port Macquarie or close by ?
    Waiting for RAC and will probably need to be towed back.
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    Limped it in to Wauchope with RAC guy following us. Hastings Diesel Service will be taking a look at it

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    This isn't going to help you, but I keep a selection of resistors in my tool kit for spoofing ratiometric sensors. These bloody things are so complex that .. well you've seen what a duff sensor can do. As long as you know it's not a real problem, being able to at least get a signal into a plausible range can be handy for "ongoing procession".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    This isn't going to help you, but I keep a selection of resistors in my tool kit for spoofing ratiometric sensors. These bloody things are so complex that .. well you've seen what a duff sensor can do. As long as you know it's not a real problem, being able to at least get a signal into a plausible range can be handy for "ongoing procession".
    Damn good idea. I. guess you'd keep a list of "expected values"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Damn good idea. I. guess you'd keep a list of "expected values"?
    Nope, although I do keep a copy of the manual on my iPad and that often has values or voltages listed.

    I haven't had to use them in anger, but I did have a play with the water temp sensor one day. I monitored the live value on the GAP and just played around until I got something vaguely plausible. Off the top of my head I couldn't even tell you now what values I have in the box. The beaut thing about resistors is you can just put them in series or parallel until you get something that works. I've got a small 8 way chocolate block and some high temp silicone covered cable in the kit. So I can just hack together whatever is required to bypass/replace the faulty sensor.

    Of course it's like having insurance. Since I have the gear in the car I'll never actually need to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    This isn't going to help you, but I keep a selection of resistors in my tool kit for spoofing ratiometric sensors. These bloody things are so complex that .. well you've seen what a duff sensor can do. As long as you know it's not a real problem, being able to at least get a signal into a plausible range can be handy for "ongoing procession".
    Good idea I'm sure I bought one of these from Jaycar but they don't seem to keep them anymore Resistance Wheel | Jaycar Electronics but there are other resistance boxes out there resistance box - Google Shopping and my fuel temp sender is leaking fuel through it.
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    Just buy a few potentiometers that will let you cover all ranges likely. Eg 1k ohm, 10k ohm, etc.

    Then you can select and adjust to your need.
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    A Possible Solution

    Remove sensor, clean connection socket thoroughly. Attach some "fly leads" to the connection pins, then fill the connection socket with Araldite, this will reseal the sensor. Replace sensor and connect fly leads to existing wiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDLOVER View Post
    Good idea I'm sure I bought one of these from Jaycar but they don't seem to keep them anymore Resistance Wheel | Jaycar Electronics
    I let the smoke out of those one day on a mates boat with a Cummins diesel. The resistors just didn't have the power handling capacity to emulate the oil pressure sender. Remembering you don't need a precise value to get out of trouble, just something in the range of "plausible".
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    I might have to get some 10 Watt wire wound resistors as I had no idea sensors could use so much power.
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