V6 Petrol D3 Economy ONLY please

I don't want to hi-jack this thread in any way.. but if the diesel -> petrol price difference continues at around 20% then this should be factored in. You'd have to take a real guess as to what might happen in the future. The diesel has to be at least 20% lighter on fuel just to show any saving. With better aero and better petrol engine design the gap is reducing but I guess thats what this thread is about.

Re-sale will likely be significantly less on the petrol, but if that diesel - petrol price differentiation continues it may affect that. If the resale difference is equal to the purchase cost difference then you just have the money in the bank in the meantime.

Fuel costs seem to have an emotional response when car buying but the reality is that it is no where near the biggest factor in cost of ownership (unless you're doing big miles).

I'd be interested in towing figures too, i would assume it would be around the same figures as around town city work, if it's close to what i'm getting out of the TD5, that could be a deciding factor in our choice.

I'm surprised how good the economy is, considering the weight of the vehicle.

Glen, no not really, just looking at changing vehicles soon and looking at options.

Looking at dealer and private sales, new and used, the average price difference between the diesel and petrol SE is $20,000, that would take a fair few years to re-coup using fuel as a saving.

the difference is approx $1850 a year in fuel savings petrol over diesel on prices at the moment, which means it would take nearly 11yrs to re-coup the price difference on the purchase price only.

Baz.

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Originally Posted by Redback

Looking at dealer and private sales, new and used, the average price difference between the diesel and petrol SE is $20,000, that would take a fair few years to re-coup using fuel as a saving.

the difference is approx $1850 a year in fuel savings, which means it would take nearly 11yrs to re-coup.

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Yes but you need to consider the resale value diff between the two cars. On the other hand spending say 15k less (on the petrol vs diesel) now will be worth say 20k in 5 years time (ie the NPV of the price diff).

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

Yes but you need to consider the resale value diff between the two cars. On the other hand spending say 15k less (on the petrol vs diesel) now will be worth say 20k in 5 years time (ie the NPV of the price diff).

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Yep that was just one thing, i haven't included service cost or re-sale as yet and that was comparing my TD5 if the fuel usage was the same, also how long you keep the car is a factor as well.

The TDV6 uses less fuel than the V6 from what has been posted so far, once i get a few more figures i'll do a complete comparison.

Baz.

I've found the computer doesn't give accurate fuel consumption figures, so I calculate actuals. Over a 4000 km run (Melbourne-Perth) my V8 consumed 13.6 litres/100km. That was with a heavy load, but nothing on top or behind and driving a steady 100km-hr on 98 octane. With a 4WD box trailer and the roof-rack fully festooned, I get about 16l/100km. In town (is Perth a city or a town?) it's more like 17l/100. My V8 was a bargain to purchase - about $14k less than the diesel and it consumes about $900/yr more in fuel. Including interest costs, non-tax-deductability >$57k, etc I'd have to drive over 700,000 kms to have the V8 cost as much all-up as the diesel. I'm sure if you tow a lot then the diesel looks better. When the cost of the V8's 19" tyres gets into the equation, it kills the cost savings. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Redback

i haven't included service cost

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HUGELY important point. If you work for a large company with a fleet (doesn't matter what brand) hit LR up for the corporate plan which is a set of floor mats and 3 years free servicing. I got it as have others here. Big saving.

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Originally Posted by Dingmark Jim

I've found the computer doesn't give accurate fuel consumption figures, so I calculate actuals.

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I found the trip computer to read roughly 1 l/100k low.

This debate will go on until the cows come home but here's my 2 cents anyway...

I've had my V6SE now since Nov 05. I live about 10k's from Melbourne city, so am fairly chocked with traffic day in and out. The car get's to pick up kids in the afternoon and also do some country runs for my work. When only running about town I generally get about 420k's per 80litres putting the economy at around 19l/100km's. On the highway I easily get 12-13l/100km fully loaded with some off-road thrown in as well. I only use 98 premium. I've recently changed jobs so now drive against traffic and am now averaging about 16-17l/100km in the city.

Fuel economy changes dramatically depending on where you live and how long you are stuck in traffic. My average speed hovers around 25-30 km/hr thus killing the fuel economy.

I had a series II Disco V8 prior to the D3 V6 and there is still no comparison. My decision to purchase the petrol vs diesel was made when fuel was not so expensive ($1.10 yet the price difference between the two was less (about 10cents/litre), so the arguement is still valid if not strengthened for the diesel, noting that I don't tow anything more than a 6x4 trailer. My calculations suggest that it would take me more than 10yrs to recover the costs of the diesel.

The additional cost of fuel is not a burden, it is simply the small price to pay for driving the most enjoyable vehicle that I have ever had the pleasure to own. :arms:

Good luck

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

HUGELY important point. If you work for a large company with a fleet (doesn't matter what brand) hit LR up for the corporate plan which is a set of floor mats and 3 years free servicing. I got it as have others here. Big saving.

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I have the option to go salary sacrifice if i want, which includes service and fuel costs, and a fleet deal which is 10% off purchace price,(no GST) i'm looking into this ATM.

Baz.

With the petrol you spend more time at service stations instead of enjoying the drive. :eek: