G4 Disco 3 Specs

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Originally Posted by chuck

I also like the original raised air intakes better than ARB's snorkel.
Has anyone improved Landrovers design so as to turn it into a snorkel rather than a Raised Air Intake.

Regards

Chuck

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The LR RAI can be "water-proofed" - to the same extent as the Safari. But whether it's worth doing is an individual choice. Regardless of which snorkle, the intake to the turbo is not sealed, and in reality, the LR RAI will prevent intake of water as long as you're moving. If you're not, it's likely that most of your electronics would be swamped anyway, before you ingest water.

Cheers,

Gordon

Assuming you have a "waterproof" snorkel, at what depth would the turbo start to suck water, or is there something else (electronics?) that is going to stop you first?

No idea re turbo.

The point about all this is not to turn the car into a submarine. It is to minimise the chances of water ingress and damage. Given the D3's aversion to water and the expense to repair that makes sense.

The LR RAI is better than nothing, but why not have a properly waterproofed snorkel for less money? OK, looks....I can live with the Safari looks, and the noise is quite livable too. I'd rather the waterproofing, but each to their own.

Even if the vehicle becomes waterlogged, it's better to repair just some damaged parts than the entire engine, so the argument that other things will become damaged at the same time doesn't "hold water" for me, it's all about reducing risk. I've been there and done that as far as vehicles in deep water is concerned and I'm doing whatever I can to stack the odds of keeping my D3 alive should I ever find myself in deeper water than planned.

My car was done up as a G4 by the dealer in Perth - used as a display car at the Perth show in 2006; Only option not on it was the Winch - and at $4350 for a Warn 9500 I can see why - how can they charge that???

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Originally Posted by BlackPerth

My car was done up as a G4 by the dealer in Perth - used as a display car at the Perth show in 2006; Only option not on it was the Winch - and at $4350 for a Warn 9500 I can see why - how can they charge that???

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It's insane pricing for a 9500XP at normal RRP let alone at LR's markup which I think includes their winch cradle. Much better option is an ARB bar and winch, and IMHO the likes of an Ironman is 95% of a Warn at 40% of the price! Or maybe more than 95% depending on your perspective.

People pay because they don't know any better or are forced to take LR-endorsed options.

Hmmm - I guess my point is that it is a relatively straight-forward exercise to waterproof the LR snorkle to the same extent as the Safari. It's a lot harder (probably impossible) to make the car as "submersible" as say, a D1 TDI.

So for me, in the end the choice rotates on aesthetics. I've had both snorkles fitted to a D3, and in my experience the LR snorkle did not affect the fuel consumption as much as the Safari. But that's just one datapoint, I suppose ....

Cheers,

Gordon

Real G4 vehicles are V8s, which the safari snorkel does not fit.

Cheers, Steve

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

Hmmm - I guess my point is that it is a relatively straight-forward exercise to waterproof the LR snorkle to the same extent as the Safari. It's a lot harder (probably impossible) to make the car as "submersible" as say, a D1 TDI.

So for me, in the end the choice rotates on aesthetics. I've had both snorkles fitted to a D3, and in my experience the LR snorkle did not affect the fuel consumption as much as the Safari. But that's just one datapoint, I suppose ....

Cheers,

Gordon

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My LR RAI gained some induction noise after it was waterproofed and that would have increased fuel consumption slightly, probably same as the Safari. For me I'm not worried about it as I have a long range tank.

I think that paying less for a properly waterproof snorkel makes more financial sense than paying for a more expensive one that isn't, then waterproofing it.

You can also fit precleaners to the Safaris.

Agree the LR one looks better.

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Originally Posted by rmp

I wouldn't buy the rack. Get something like a Rackmaster instead or another quality alloy. The rails are too few and far apart on the Expedition. Like most LR accessories it looks the goods but isn't all that practical.

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Trying to find something that sits low on the roof. The issue with most racks on the market, is the front support leg is a country mile off the roof. Doesn't look the best and would create a lot of drag. The 3/4 racks look better, but don't provide enough support for the front of any normal length awning, exposing the awning to damage if pushing through scrub etc. gghaggis may care to comment, as I see his awning protrudes further out even on the expedition rack. Probably look at the potential to drop the rear mounts closer to the rails on one of the other full length racks.

I quite like the LR expedition rack (but then again I didn't pay full price for it, so my opinion might be a little biased). It's very strong, low drag and fits the roofline nicely. I got an extra set of tie-down rings ($130 for 6), which makes it very versatile, as they can be positioned anywhere on the floor rails or side rails. My awning (an ARB model) protrudes approx 400mm forward of the front of the rack, but being fixed at 4 points along the length of the rack, it is firmly held to the vehicle. No damage so far!

Cheers,

Gordon