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They weren't properly prepared for remote area trips - they should have practiced R&R'ing tyres and had the equipment, patches and tubes on hand. There's nothing to fear in changing a tyre on an alloy rim with appropriate equipment.Quote:
Originally Posted by olbod
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Originally Posted by Graeme
You're probably quite right.
I must admit I have never done it and it would be something I would need to learn.
My experience is with trucks and a 73 model Patrol split rims and of course lots of Landy 16" rims.
I have a hang up with these larger wheel sizes and a lack of good off road rubber.
Thinking about it I probably wouldn't change the wheels on The Bitch because it wears good size offroad rubber and I have a tyre repair kit on board anyway and a compressor and it has been years since I damaged a sidewall.
But 19 and 20", shudder. Suggests an anxiety attack.
The hardest part to changing Land Rover alloys is breaking the bead, because the LR alloys have built in beadlocks, you'll need a beadbreaker, from either Tyreplyers or R&R Beadbreaker, you can practise on your RR P38a, they are hard to break the bead on also, try breaking the bead as you would with a steel rim, then get back to us;)Quote:
Originally Posted by olbod
Baz.
Olbod i have 19 inch rims on my MY10 3 litre oil burning sport, it runs General Grabber AT's. It completed a trip up to Cape York, did sections of the Old Telegraph track, Lakefield NP, Jardine River NP, the PDR, I was slightly worried about the profile 255/50/R19, but the general grabber thick tread makes it look a wee bit bigger in profile.
The tyres performed both on and off the tarmac perfectly, not an issue.. What 19" rims are actually fitted, i have the "Off Road Alloys" which were actually the pre facelift standard ones :) until LR saw a marketing gimmick
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Originally Posted by Redback
Baz, I might invest in a beadbreaker anyway as The Bitch will be due for new tyres soon.
I could get 4 fitted and I could play with fitting the 5th spare for practise.
Anyone got experience with any particular brand ?
Zilch, that is a good recommendation for general grabbers, thanks.
What I might do is check out the earlier RRS say 2009 with the 2.7 donk,
I have a feeling that they had 18" wheels.
I am not sure if the later models had the 2.7 and 18's.
I will check them out on car sales or the used car thingy.
The pre-facelift versions of the RRS (prior to about Apr 2009) had the 2.7 TDV6 (or the TDV8). The post facelifts were 3.0 TDV6s with a few TDV8s thrown in early in the piece. These later versions are 19" or larger rims as standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by olbod
Standard wheels for these 2.7s was 18" rims but 17" rims will also fit - D3 17" rims go well or BMW X5 17" rims with different wheel nuts also fit - there are a few threads on this for both the RRS and D3.
I know a bloke with 17" King Steel rims on his D3 and decent sized tyres fitted, two of his rims are out of round and stuffed. There has been pics on here of Dynamic steel rims on D3's tearing the centres out so steel rims aren't always the answer to avoiding rim issues that some think.
Modern alloys are pretty good and few on here have had bad issues with their OEM alloys that I can remember.
MY10 (build date Sept 09+) RRS had the 3.0 and 19" rims. 17" would fit MY09 and earlier when fitted with the 2.7.
I had the R & R Beadbreaker and not being the LR alloy model(they have a LR specific Beadbreaker) bought it when I had a Ford Explorer and it worked well for it and any other steel rim, but the first time I used it on my D2 I bent it, then bent it again when trying to get a tyre off a mates RRS 20" alloys.Quote:
Originally Posted by olbod
So if going for the R & R, you'll need to get the heavy duty model and specify you have alloy rims, it has an extra attachment for alloys.
I think the tyreplyers would be to hard to use, you need a lot of brute force to use them, whereas the R & R is a winding type device.
Here ya go, the R&R alloy rim beadbreaker demo
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ozUNbW5o4g]R&R Beadbreaker & Tyre Refitting Tool Hub adapter for aluminium rims with no off set - YouTube[/ame]
Yep, 2009 it is.
Even better that they can be fitted with 17" goodies.
I dont mind the thought of running 17' alloy's with AT rubber.
I have just checked out the R&R beadbraker thingy's on youtube.
Downloaded two clips and converted it to dvd as a keeper.
Easy as eh, if you are careful.
While we are here, is there a Nanacom or similar diagnostic tool to tune into these models ?
First have to get The Bitch up to scratch or it would never get done.
Alot left to do to Me Disco but it is a project now and I will just use it to play on shorter trips around Qld.
Ta.