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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    2012 by a previous post, so another 3L gone.

    I see red every time I read of another, reliving my early TD5 D2 ownership where LR wouldn't look at it loosing coolant yet that only cost me $10K.
    as a diesel fitter with experiece up to 3000 hp, this is how I find out what is going on in any engine, take out the eng. oil filter cartridge, cut it open with a hacksaw, open the filter medium, spread it out, then shine a light on it, gold bronze shows bearing on way out, silver grabbed piston , do this every oil change
    by the way td5 had a recall on coolant, there is a clip holding one of the hoe\ses on right of enginelkg from front, clip chaffes the hose, I found this after much stress on Autobahn, vehicle goes limp mode

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    My TD5's coolant problem was a porous head, a common fault in the first batch of engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    My TD5's coolant problem was a porous head, a common fault in the first batch of engines.
    as well as what i stated, mine was a millennium edition, by that time heads were ok, I 'spose, the 5 cyl mill made a fabulous beat climbing on the autobahn at 130km/h

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    Update on engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by peterall View Post
    Any update on your engine claim AS355??
    HI, Still trying to have LRA come to the party.

    After many emails they have more or less said "Take a jump"

    The main problem I have had is that the previous owner serviced it at around 15k but the services were late by calendar by unto 6 months.
    He did not use it much and was away a bit also.
    My argument to LRA was that it more than likely would do less harm to the engine that doing the recommended 26k between services.
    Spoke to an oil analysis guy and he said the same thing more or less.
    I still believe that they had a faulty product to start with and they shouldn't be blaming the servicing.
    A David and Goliath fight I think.

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    its up to LRA to prove being 6 months late was the cause of the failure to deny the claim/

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    Hi AS355. People will tell you get a lawyer and take them to court but.......Think very carefully before you go to court. Consult a solicitor experienced in motor trading/affairs etc by all means but act carefully.

    Car manufacturers defend their reputation/product vigorously and employ the best legal people, the best engineers, the best of anything else that they think they need in court to beat you. They will also be flown in via first class, accommodated in the very best hotels and eat at the vary best restaurants. Initially this won't affect you but later on it will.

    As soon as you step into the court the financial clock is ticking. You have to pay your legal person, witnesses/engineers and their travel, accommodation costs etc. If at any stage you walk away the car company can ask the court for costs to be awarded against you. If you get an overall verdict in your favour then the car company will likely appeal the decision. They can keep on fighting you until it breaks you financially and then when you finally quit they ask the court for their costs to be awarded against you and you still have to pay your team.

    What ever you do I suggest you consider staying within the bounds of Consumer Affairs Tribunals. Unlike the civil courts costs cannot be asked for or awarded.

    To give an example of what legal costs can mean. Five years ago I engaged a solicitor over a matter. He in turn said I should speak to a barrister to get an idea of legal interpretation and likelihood of success in court. The barrister charged $3G for a half hour chat in his rooms. That is correct....$3G and we hadn't even got to what the costs of his legal research, his attending solicitor, his appearance in court, any specialist technical opinion plus all their behind the scenes work costs if the matter proceeded to court.

    Cheers and good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    To give an example of what legal costs can mean. Five years ago I engaged a solicitor over a matter. He in turn said I should speak to a barrister to get an idea of legal interpretation and likelihood of success in court. The barrister charged $3G for a half hour chat in his rooms. That is correct....$3G and we hadn't even got to what the costs of his legal research, his attending solicitor, his appearance in court, any specialist technical opinion plus all their behind the scenes work costs if the matter proceeded to court.

    Cheers and good luck.
    Yes you are right there.

    One of my brothers is a barrister.The dollars he charges out are absolutely rediculous.
    But he would be out of depth changing a tyre on a wheelbarrow .....
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    Speak with the ACCC - they recently took Ford to court and won big time, so they may be in a mood to take this on, particularly in view of the many documented engine failures. Likewise JRA may be more inclined to be sympathetic when reminded of the Ford prosecution. Court orders Ford to pay $10 million penalty for unconscionable conduct | ACCC

    Other than that - you are on your own as the consumer law can only be enforced via a court order which maybe very expensive to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AS355 View Post
    HI, Still trying to have LRA come to the party.

    After many emails they have more or less said "Take a jump"

    The main problem I have had is that the previous owner serviced it at around 15k but the services were late by calendar by unto 6 months.
    He did not use it much and was away a bit also.
    My argument to LRA was that it more than likely would do less harm to the engine that doing the recommended 26k between services.
    Spoke to an oil analysis guy and he said the same thing more or less.
    I still believe that they had a faulty product to start with and they shouldn't be blaming the servicing.
    A David and Goliath fight I think.
    Are you aware of LR Bulletins SSM71816 and SSM72928?
    These Bulletins detail the failures.
    Might pay to try and go "public" with a motoring correspondent?
    John Connolly writes in The Weekend Australian and regularly berates Mazda for apparent engine problems with some models. I think he's had some degree of success...could be worthwhile informing him of this LR/RR/Jaguar problem. These journos are always looking for fresh content!
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    Are you aware of LR Bulletins SSM71816 and SSM72928?
    These Bulletins detail the failures.
    Might pay to try and go "public" with a motoring correspondent?
    John Connolly writes in The Weekend Australian and regularly berates Mazda for apparent engine problems with some models. I think he's had some degree of success...could be worthwhile informing him of this LR/RR/Jaguar problem. These journos are always looking for fresh content!
    And he also not long ago, hit LR pretty hard,commenting about the couple that sued LR over a new RR with constant issues,and poor dealer service,and won.
    Paul

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