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Drive safe I have a L322 MY2003 rego-ed 2004 and it's been great but still has the odd funny. Regarding your comments about the later models are you saying that when the ford gear/parts was put in they went down hill? Down the track why shouldn't I consider updating to a newer model ?Quote:
Originally Posted by drivesafe
Hi Captain, it all depends on what you want the RR for.
As far as Ford taking over, When I heard this had happened, all I could see is the RR going down hill.
I could not have been further from reality.
The first thing Ford did was reintroduce reliability to the LR range and to this point, my 07 RR is without question, mechanically, the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned.
The electronics, relating to engine and suspension management are top notch as well.
BUT
The sound/sat nav is the greatest rip-off you could imagine.
Nothing about this crap works properly and I have had it in a number of times and not once was any of the problems been resolved.
It’s cheap nasty junk being passed off as a top quality system.
The Bluetooth only works when it fells like it and it usually doesn’t fell like working.
The CD player only plays the first 40 or so tracks on MP3 CDs and flatly refuses to play some bought CDs.
The nav, when I first got the RR, would display a compass barring and show the GPS position. While trying to fix a problem with the TV setting, the compass and GPS were removed and they don’t know how to reinstall them.
As far as the 07s off road ability, or more to the point total lack of any real off road ability. As I have posted before LR seem more interested in making pimp mobiles than genuine off roaders.
LR have succeeded in destroying the worlds best off roader.
Captain, if you want an on road cruiser, the 07 RR is it and so is your model, but the 07 is just grossly over priced for what it does.
If you want both a good on road cruiser and a genuine off roader, either keep your current RR, or go buy something like a Hyundai Santa Fe, which would be far better value and more useful than the 07 RR is.
Non of the off road accessories from the earlier L322 RRs fit the later versions and they are not making any to fit them.
I could go on but I just get the S**** the more I think of the amount of money I’ve wasted buying this waste of space, especially when I owned an 03 RR which was just so much better than the 07.
Drivesafe? - What are the off road accessories that are available for the TD6, and which are the ones worth having/looking for when buying one of these cars?
The main one is the winch. The LR winch could be bought with Plasma rope and looked great.
Plus, and this is the main and ruling problem with the later version, 18” mags, the later versions are restricted to 20” unless you want to grind down the brake callipers.
There are also other accessories like side steps but you could probably get some custom made, but not worth the trouble if nothing else can be done to improve the 07s off road ability.
Don’t get me wrong 2nd Rower, my 03 RR was the most unreliable vehicle I have ever owned but at least you could work on it and work with it.
No exaggeration, if I won lotto or what ever, the first thing I would do is go looking for the most immaculate 03-04 RR I could find and then flog off this waste of space.
The earlier versions of the L322 had character, these new ones are just CARS, not 4x4s.
Thanks again for all the info much appreciated.
The TDV8 RRS and 3.0 TDV6 RRS and D4 have the same issue with large calipers limiting wheel and thus tyre choice at 19" or bigger... GGHaggis has sourced a solution for the RRS and D4 here:Quote:
Originally Posted by drivesafe
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...up-here-9.html
Maybe you can investigate if these new 18" compomotive rims will fit the L322 TDV8?
I have an 03 RR Vouge, and whilst it did have some early issues, they were all fixed under warranty and for the last couple of years it has been faultless.
TD6 diesel is a peach. Excellent acceleration and brilliant fuel economy.
Off road is excellent. The only dramas I've had which have got me close to being bogged was leaving the DCS on when in soft sand. That is a killer!! Never had an issue with ground clearance - I reckon it is very good as there are no diffs hanging down to get caught up on anything.
Mine is running Goodyear MTR Mud/Snow tyres, which are a tad noisy but very good at what they are built for. These are the "official" RR G4 Challenge tyres.
The worst thing is the depreciation. If I think about how much it is worth now I might cry - so I don't think about it.
HTH
David
Hi again 2nd Rower, thanks and I have been watching with great interest but I think the calipers on the RR are bigger than those but one can only hope!Quote:
Originally Posted by 2nd Rower
Hi Spudboy, you definitely have the best of the L322 and I wouldn’t fret too much over the depreciation, it’s not just an RR thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by spudboy
Every luxury vehicle has the same problem.
Yeah - I guess so. The only one I've had that didn't tank was a 911 Porsche. Hopeless offroad but :pQuote:
Originally Posted by drivesafe
BTW - the MTR's I'm running are on 19"s because I think that is the only way to buy them (or it was 2 years ago - I don't think I could find 18's, so I had to get new rims).
I've only had one minor issue with my 03 and that was the battery in the key fob went flat so the imobilisor wouldn't disable,other than that it has been excellent.I will agree with drivesafe,the Alpine system is rubbish.I have been told by those in the know that it is a very highly regarded japanese made system but to me it is junk.Offroad mine is let down by it's highway tyres but the traction control,stability control is as good as it gets,it works in a blink of an eye.Mine goes very well,it pulls hard and gets economy above what common sense saids it should,30mpg is common for me. Pat