Would you buy another L322?

This is fantastic guys - thanks a lot for the info.

I am looking at an 2002 MY03 4.4 Petrol L322 fitted with 20 inch tyres.

Can I assume this is an okay thing to do?

My current Rangie - a factory standard Classic LSE with ATs fitted -spends its time around my small country town, on average condition narrow rural highways [LHS tyres can get a hammering at times] and on forest trails -some good and some not so good. The next Rangie will perform similar duties.

Perhaps reverting to factory 18's on an L322 is the way to go. I hate changing tyres from stone punctures - tends to stuff up a perfectly good day out.

Have to disagree with Sniegy as I have a few brochures in front of me.
Copyright Land Rover 2001
18" 5 spoke option on all
18" 5-split spoke standard on SE (petrol & diesel), HSE ( petrol & diesel), Vogue( diesel)
19" 6 spoke standard on Vogue(petrol)
19" 6 spoke option on SE & HSE ( petrol)
20" 7 spoke Accessory on all V8's

Copyright Land Rover 2005
18" 5-split spoke ( style 2) standard on V8 & TD6 & HSE TD6. Option on HSE V8.
18" 5-split spoke ( style 3 ) standard on Vogue TD6. Option on V8 & TD6, and HSE V8 & HSE TD6.
19" 7 spoke ( style 4) standard on HSE V8, Vogue V8 & Vogue SE TD6. Option on V8 & TD6, HSE TD6, Vogue TD6, & Vogue SE V8.
20" 7 spoke ( style 5) standard on Vogue SE V8. Option on Vogue V8
20" 9 spoke ( style 6) standard on Vogue SE V8 S/C

Thats all I could find a short notice.

Yes LR did not recommend 19" or 20" on the TD6 due to vibrations

Different wheel nuts between 2002-2005 & later cars.

D3/4 & RRS have a different wheel offset to early L322. Not sure about later L322's

Gary

Hi Grumbles, if you are navigating a lot of bumpy roads I probably wouldn't go for the 20's. They are generally fine, but there is a noticeable difference as far as comfort levels go. They make for a much firmer ride than the 18's, and sometimes I think about getting a set of 18's for mine. I like the look of the 20's for that smart 'around town' look, but the practicality of them isn't great. Going bush again in mine this weekend, and I'll have to tip toe around to ensure I don't do any tyre or rim damage.

I would like to get a set of smaller rims and fit some all terrains to them for weekends, but the range of tyres available even in an 18 is crap. I don't think anything smaller would fit though...

Cheers - Gav

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Originally Posted by 33chinacars

Yes LR did not recommend 19" or 20" on the TD6 due to vibrations

Gary

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Hi Gary - can you explain this a bit for me please? What are the vibrations and what is the reasoning?

Tks
David

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Originally Posted by 33chinacars

Have to disagree with Sniegy as I have a few brochures in front of me.
Copyright Land Rover 2001
18" 5 spoke option on all
18" 5-split spoke standard on SE (petrol & diesel), HSE ( petrol & diesel), Vogue( diesel)
19" 6 spoke standard on Vogue(petrol)
19" 6 spoke option on SE & HSE ( petrol)
20" 7 spoke Accessory on all V8's

Copyright Land Rover 2005
18" 5-split spoke ( style 2) standard on V8 & TD6 & HSE TD6. Option on HSE V8.
18" 5-split spoke ( style 3 ) standard on Vogue TD6. Option on V8 & TD6, and HSE V8 & HSE TD6.
19" 7 spoke ( style 4) standard on HSE V8, Vogue V8 & Vogue SE TD6. Option on V8 & TD6, HSE TD6, Vogue TD6, & Vogue SE V8.
20" 7 spoke ( style 5) standard on Vogue SE V8. Option on Vogue V8
20" 9 spoke ( style 6) standard on Vogue SE V8 S/C

Thats all I could find a short notice.

Yes LR did not recommend 19" or 20" on the TD6 due to vibrations

Different wheel nuts between 2002-2005 & later cars.

D3/4 & RRS have a different wheel offset to early L322. Not sure about later L322's

Gary

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Gary, yes you are correct on the release of the 19" rims.
Couldnt read off my brochure in the dark:(

They were a std fitment on the 06MY "Style 4" in this model, this is when the changes were made to steering as the newer engines were to be fitted.
Not as i said "On later MY's (07/08) they changed suspension damping, rack dampers & engine damping to alleviate this issue, but still today you can feel the TD6 & TDV8 vibrate at idle"

This is because at idle you would feel the vehicle vibrate & quite harshly at times due to the "lack" of sidewall.
The sidewall in the tyre would take out the vibration & you would not feel it in the 18" rim combo.
On the earlier models Gary, i dont recall any 20" rim option as i dont have any earlier catalogues anymore.

Thanks for your input Gary.:D

Hi David

19" & 20" not recommended for TD6 ? Not a 100% sure but along the lines of engine hormonic's at idle & the smaller side walls of the bigger rims . Have see a better explanation on other forums. Search fullfatrr.com & rangerover.net

Further to my last post Rim sizes
18" x 7.5" or 8"
19" x 8"
20 x 8.5"

Alternative tyre size 235/65-18

Gary

PS thanks Sniegy Had a few brochures lying around to check

David
I have seen the causes attributed to engine mounts and auto-trans surging at idle. I don't know the fix,BUT 06 Td6 Vogues came standard with 19" alloys ! and they didn't have this problem,like all diesels though idle is felt in the vehicle.
So there is a fix out there,

Hi Laurie,
There is no fix at present for the earlier vehicles (03-05MY)(TD6 only)
These were never set up to have the 19's fitted & why there was never an option for anything bigger than 19" rims.

I suppose the only fix would be to spend mega dollars to fit the newer steering rack (if it would fit), new front air springs & control mechanisms & new Engine mounts & there control mechanisms.;)

Cheers

It's mentioned here that all L322 wheels will fit as well as all D3/4RRS. As we are talking about early L322 (pre 06 update) it is worth mentioning that you will need the wheel nuts. The wheels offered on Pre 06 have a different recess and use a different wheel nut, so if changing to late L322, D3 ect you will need to get the wheel nuts for the later wheels.

As for 18/19/20 - stay with the smallest rims. Tyres are cheaper, get higher mileage, more available choice, ride smoother, quieter and are far less prone to problems when leaving the black top. IMHO larger (19,20) rims look nicer but 22-24 just look stupid, and theoretically will corner better but that will not be noticable unless you put some laps in at the local track day

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Originally Posted by bacicat2000

Hi Grumbles, if you are navigating a lot of bumpy roads I probably wouldn't go for the 20's. They are generally fine, but there is a noticeable difference as far as comfort levels go. They make for a much firmer ride than the 18's, and sometimes I think about getting a set of 18's for mine. I like the look of the 20's for that smart 'around town' look, but the practicality of them isn't great. Going bush again in mine this weekend, and I'll have to tip toe around to ensure I don't do any tyre or rim damage.

I would like to get a set of smaller rims and fit some all terrains to them for weekends, but the range of tyres available even in an 18 is crap. I don't think anything smaller would fit though...

Cheers - Gav

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Thanks for that insight Gav. I really like the plush, big limo, ocean liner/wallowy type ride in my LSE and I would hate to lose that in another car.

Using my Rangie as I do then I'm pretty sure I would quickly damage the 20 inch tyres and probably the rims. Those Victorian fire trails etc can be punishing and at times it can be impossible to avoid the damaging terrain with the travel line choices being either bad or much worse. So 18s it is.

I once went through the two sets of rims and tyres stage when I misguidedly owned a Jap fourby. Never again! Just too much of a hassle and it killed any form of spontaneity about going bush.

Cheers.