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    Fuel consumption up after fitting EGR blanking kit

    L322 3.0
    I noticed that my fuel consumption has gone up slightly since removing my EGR and fitting the blanking unit.
    I used to return 10.8-10.9 litres per 100kms not it's 11.4 litres per 100 kms.
    I ran diagnostics on her and got this code
    P0401-20 extended fault path exhaust gas recirculation governor deviation - negative deviation.

    After having a chat with GAP, I was informed the likely cause of the fault would probably be an air leak.
    Today I had to removed the intake inter-cooler hose to access the radiator bleed screw to do a coolant change. Whilst I had the inter cooler hose off , I pulled the EGR blanking replacement unit off and ran a small bead of RTV around the mating to intake surfaces. Just to eliminate that. I don't think that was the cause though.
    I checked the inter cooler hose no evidence of a leak there.
    I did notice the bottom hose was pretty soft at the bend. so will replace that on Friday.
    ( Just be the way what a stupid setup up on the hose connection, a jubilee clamp to fit hose to a tin connector and then that tin connector connects to the inter cooler with some rubber seal lip inside and a spring clip to retain it. Why didn't they just put a lip on the outlet of the inter cooler and the hose just clamp directly to that , but oh no, over engineering, complicating things unnecessarily. And you can't buy that tin connector separately, it only comes with the hose, which now can't be bought separately, it supersedes to an assembly with hose /pipe and upper hose connected. I am replacing it with original as the tin connector is not firm when connected, the inner seals are worn. some leak of oil apparent, so not sealing well. Otherwise I would have put a silicon hose on and used the existing connector .)

    I now wonder if a partially collapsing inter cooler hose restricting air intake has slightly increased the fuel usage?
    Eliminate a dirty air filter as I recently replaced it.

    Any suggestions? Cheers, Mario


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    Hi Mario,
    On one of my regular journeys (in now sold TD6) I would consistently get 10.5 L/100 before fitting the EGR Blanking, after fitting this went to 10.1-10.2. so economy improved.
    cheers, Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter g View Post
    Hi Mario,
    On one of my regular journeys (in now sold TD6) I would consistently get 10.5 L/100 before fitting the EGR Blanking, after fitting this went to 10.1-10.2. so economy improved.
    cheers, Peter
    Hmm interesting, so there is something causing it. it's only .5 of a litre more , but it equates to nearly 5 litres over a tank.
    I did some more googling and it brought up an old post on AULRO, http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-...0401-20-a.html
    Cause: a leak from a split vacuum hose from the EGR ( the Grey one with the Blue strip ) had a split. I have examined this hose on mine at the EGR end and it looks ok, but cant seem to find the other end of it as it disappears on the side of the passenger side of engine, it's pretty hard to get to, so it might be removing the top engine cover to give some more light to it. It is the only hose that was disturbed when I pulled it off the EGR, maybe the removing caused the hose to split somewhere along it's length.
    Cheers, Mario


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    I tried something today, I disconnected the battery for 10 mins , then joined the disconnected POS & NEG leads together for 10 mins, I read that doing this resets the ECU .
    So after 10mions I reconnected the battery and and took her fro a drive.
    Immediately I got a fuel consumption reading of 26.1 litres per 100 kms.! but as I drove it started to come down, it got as low as 7.5 litres per 100 kph. I drove for 40 kms and it strated to move to 8.5 then to 9 and settled at 9.5 - 9.9 for most of the journey, acceleration up steep hills increased it to 10.1 litres per 100kms, so I was very happy. but now it's creeping back up to and sitting 11.1 litres per 100 kms, so I'm at a loss.
    I can't find a suspected vacuum leak anywhere, so at a loss.


    The only error code is that P0401-20 extended fault path exhaust gas recirculation governor deviation - negative deviation. which has me stumped.

    Interccooler to intake hoses are replaced so no leak there. Vacuum hoses all hold suction so no leaks there.

    PS, just went for another drive and fuel consumption has dropped again., it's now around 10.3 around town, I noticed this relates to lower ambient temperature, temp was 17.5C, earlier on when the Ambient temp was up around 26c the fuel consumption was higher. co incidence?


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    It might be time to flush out the intercooler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    It might be time to flush out the inter cooler.
    Would a gunked up inter cooler cause these symptoms?


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    Fuel consumption up after fitting EGR blanking kit

    If it's running better cold then maybe. I presume on the td6 oil vapour enters the turbo intake and then travels with clean air through the intercooler. If the crank case ventilation filter isn't working well there could be extra oil in the ventilated air.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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    Fuel consumption will always go higher as ambient temperature increases providing the engine is at operating temperature, ie has warmed-up. Cooler air is denser so provides more oxygen for more efficient combustion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    If the crank case ventilation filter isn't working well there could be extra oil in the ventilated air.
    The Crank case filter has replaced by the later modified cyclonic filter, so clogged filters are out of the equasion


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    Maybe try an induction cleaner such as Revive. It's to clean build up in the turbo, intercooler, and intake manifold to some extent. I've used it on the tdv8. The motor ran noticeably smoother after, not that it was running rough. My L322 had about 240,000 on it when I had the Revive treatment done.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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