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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Graeme

    I first posted when Poly bushes were commented on in the D4 forum that the extra stresses they place could potentially cause damage.
    There are now cases appearing of cracked and failed arms appearing on Social Media LR sites and other LR forums.
    I sent JC a pic only a week ago.

    The forces the arms are subject to and the range of motion negates the use of poly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Graeme

    I first posted when Poly bushes were commented on in the D4 forum that the extra stresses they place could potentially cause damage.
    There are now cases appearing of cracked and failed arms appearing on Social Media LR sites and other LR forums.
    I sent JC a pic only a week ago.

    The forces the arms are subject to and the range of motion negates the use of poly.

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    Even Superpro?

    Just interested.......... they've been magnificent in my POS, but it was designed well before Woodstock.

    Interested in why they wouldn't work in this app. Your opinion is valued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Even Superpro?

    Just interested.......... they've been magnificent in my POS, but it was designed well before Woodstock.

    Interested in why they wouldn't work in this app. Your opinion is valued.

    DL
    As much as I am a fan of Superpro (it’s been in all my vehicles) I won’t use it in this particular application.

    I have it on sway bars etc on the D4 but not in replacement of the hydro bushes.

    The range of motion on these vehicles is quite complex, a combination of twist and rotation. Even the act of lowering to get out shifts this bush significantly. (Hence I always lower whilst still rolling into a parking space rather than stop then lower).

    The transmitted forces through a more rigid bush places quite a bit of stress in this area and besides a notable ride quality decrease (NVH transmission) it is now showing fracturing failure of the arms at the bush.

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    How did you go on your first trip with the reversed bush ?

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    The bush looks OK from a passing glance although that trip was purely on-road. I didn't get to order a new pair to fit before the rougher trip so the poly will stay in the left side for a while yet.
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    Fitted Lemforder bushes all around on my L322 quite some years ago - they are still going strong I believe with the new owner of the vehicle. Is there some damage somewhere that’s causing them to chew out?
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    My guess is that the daily significant articulation on my driveway is the cause although with the left one a lot worse than the right, the road edge could be contributing. I use a 30mm lift on my rough 2km driveway to provide more bump-stop clearance so the suspension is moving considerably more than for on-road driving.

    I wonder if the cheapest bushes would deteriorate any faster but I'm not game to try.
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    Graeme
    What did you end up using for your radial arm bush replacement ; and how are they going ?

    Laurie

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    I fitted another set of Lemforder bushes.

    I had occasion to fit a non-genuine front arm for its ball joint, being the only one available at short notice. When subsequently checking for the source of another rattle I thought that the cheap bush in that arm had already chopped-out, but not so, it was only badly compressing when moving the steering left & right due to the rubber being very soft. Its a good example of the poor quality of a non-genuine bush, which I intend swapping for the one from the removed arm. The rattle was caused by a slightly loose inner tie-rod joint.
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    Good to know ! thanks Graeme

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