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    I'll add to this excellent thread. If well meaning family are pushing you into a decision which will affect your lifestyle be very careful.

    You present your RR as a major part of your life/daily activity. Remove it and then what....do you get out of bed with nothing to look forward to except looking at the new Camry in the garage whilst regretting selling the RR. If the RR breaks down you can fix it....with a smile on your face......so what if it now takes you days to do a job which you could do in hours when you were younger. The important thing is that your RR makes you happy with it just being there let alone driving it and probably fixing it although you seem to have done the major expensive repairs.

    I am over 70 but not yet 80 and cop pressure to give up heading bush every day - for safety reasons - move my 1994 RR LSE on ...and my Paj swapped for a car but no way. The RR puts a smile on my face every day even if it just cost a bucket of sheckles to fix and the Paj....well it wouldn't dare break down and leave me stranded amongst the gum trees. Without the fourbys, my dog and the bush what reason do I have to get out of bed.....daily TV.....bakery coffee whilst window shopping....YUK....no thanks.

    I suggest you seriously consider your options and the consequences of decisions.

    Cheers, good luck and enjoy your self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    I'll add to this excellent thread. If well meaning family are pushing you into a decision which will affect your lifestyle be very careful.

    You present your RR as a major part of your life/daily activity. Remove it and then what....do you get out of bed with nothing to look forward to except looking at the new Camry in the garage whilst regretting selling the RR. If the RR breaks down you can fix it....with a smile on your face......so what if it now takes you days to do a job which you could do in hours when you were younger. The important thing is that your RR makes you happy with it just being there let alone driving it and probably fixing it although you seem to have done the major expensive repairs.

    I am over 70 but not yet 80 and cop pressure to give up heading bush every day - for safety reasons - move my 1994 RR LSE on ...and my Paj swapped for a car but no way. The RR puts a smile on my face every day even if it just cost a bucket of sheckles to fix and the Paj....well it wouldn't dare break down and leave me stranded amongst the gum trees. Without the fourbys, my dog and the bush what reason do I have to get out of bed.....daily TV.....bakery coffee whilst window shopping....YUK....no thanks.

    I suggest you seriously consider your options and the consequences of decisions.

    Cheers, good luck and enjoy your self.
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    Hi Uteman

    I agree with all comments here - especially, be careful of family making decisions for you.

    I'll start by admitting I'm not in the same generation as you - but I highly value personal interests and hobbies and as you get o0lder these get more valuable. If you enjoy tinkering (or just the satisfaction from it) than keep enjoying it until you don't - and as others mention it would be worth finding someone you can trust to do a job in the situation that you either can't or don't feel like it this time.

    Like you, I do all my own work. I owned a 2004 TD6 for 11 years and swapped to a very neglected 3.6TDv8 (project) at the start of 2020. The TD6 is a very easy car to work on and compared to the 3.6 everything is significantly cheaper. In my experience you may be up for some drive line components like tail shaft recon, inner CV joints (don't know why the inners got clicky before outer). AC might play up. A properly fixed GM trans will last - and I mean properly - addressing the root cause which is all pressure. There are many "rebuilds" that are just addressing the symptoms like torque converter and don't actually solve the problem. I put over 140,000km (with lots of towing and a 500nm engine tune) on mine after the trans rebuild and the fluid still came out clean just before it went to its new home, A well sorted GML40E is also smoother than the later ZF.

    If you are looking after the car yourself than costs are not an argument - the basic compulsory servicing on a new car to keep its warranty will cost more - the "free" servicing that some offer is just built into the price.... And depreciation on any new car will be more that your old TD6 will see from this point. My neighbour's 2014 Corolla just cost $1400 for new coil packs....
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    Tanks CHIVALRY

    Quote Originally Posted by Chivalry View Post
    If I may suggest that as a mechanic you surely value the knowledge of a vehicles history, especially the major mechanical (vital) components that have or haven't been replaced. You've owned your L322 since new, you know it inside out, 206xxxKMs isn't huge for a diesel, definitely not a well maintained diesel. Your family might have their own opinion about your lifestyle as you are getting older but do YOU actually have any concerns about your vehicle? Even if something happens that you may not physically be able to repair yourself, do you not have someone to help you with that if need be?

    You could follow advice given by others (especially family) through concern and be just another elderly man given up in a Camry or Accord, or make your own choice, if you don't feel any attachment or emotion with your Range Rover, sell it and buy something to just get by. If you still enjoy it, keep it until you decide that it is better to not have it. Do you have children or grandchildren who appreciate your vehicle, who you could pass it on to once you are ready?

    If your vehicle still gives you joy, keep it until it does not. Because vehicles which make you feel good are more important than vehicles that are just a thing.
    Chivalry: I will do as you suggest and keep it until such time as I feel fully ready to let it go. I do have an attachment to it. I recall hating to see my wife's Beemer go at 21 years old. Thanks for helping with my decision making.

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    Thx to Grahame Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Roberts View Post
    From purely a financial point of view; what $ cost will a replacement vehicle entail as opposed to keeping yours and getting an Indy to keep it running?

    Decision made to hang onto it at least for a while and get an independent that I have used a couple of times for jobs I simply did not have the energy for to continue the service work. Thx for good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uteman View Post
    Decision made to hang onto it at least for a while and get an independent that I have used a couple of times for jobs I simply did not have the energy for to continue the service work. Thx for good advice.
    Excellent ... I have heaps of old cars here .... I figure even if they are just "resting" for years on end before I deal with them ..... Who cares? If they make you smile when you see them sitting there. That's all that matters. The day you look at it, and it doesn't make you smile, and you can't be bothered with it. That's the day to get rid of it.

    Any car over 10years old ... has likely hit rock bottom in its value, so your probably not going to loose much money on it if it ends up sitting for a few years until you feel like making a decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uteman View Post
    Chivalry: I will do as you suggest and keep it until such time as I feel fully ready to let it go. I do have an attachment to it. I recall hating to see my wife's Beemer go at 21 years old. Thanks for helping with my decision making.
    Mate, if you are almost 80 and can use a computer to navigate a vBulletin forum, I think that your family may be letting their concern cloud judgment of your awareness. None of us here can fully understand their side of this but you seem like the type of bloke who knows when it's time to ask for help if something is difficult.

    One of my friends is in his mid 70s, he has had brand new Range Rovers (RRC, P38, L322) since the early 90s, he still has his L322 TDV8 and loves it, works on it himself, has been around Australia with it, still takes it out on big trips with the caravan. It's one of the more important parts of his life, who knows why, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that no matter what your age is, life is always better with things that you treasure.

    Best of luck with it, I'm sure if you do need any help that this community at the least will still always be here for you to assist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUTTTR View Post
    Depending on how much of an issue the money is, you could always keep it until it properly breaks... Then offload it as a project for someone...or keep aside a "if it costs more than 2k in a year, replace it"?

    It is good always having things to do, but not so great NEEDING to do it to, say, go to the shops...

    Near 80? Still just a kid then? When you get to 84 & are still in good Physical health albeit a bit out of condition the only thing that buggered me was the getting under the D1 Facelift.

    Axle stands & a new modern Jack made it better but it seemed it was still a bit of a trial & eventually it was the rising cost of Fuel that decided me to get shot. Felt quite sad when I left the Mazda Dealers seeing her all lonely looking in their car Park & I miss her today but time moves on & I have still got memories + more dosh in the bank. Well, after coughing up for the Mazda that is. I liked the D1 for it's ease of ingress & exit + the ride height. But.......... .

    The '66 S2A still lives here & that is ok, it is easier to work on, what little there is to go wrong. But whatever it is, is easily fixable.
    Recent problems have been a crook bulkhead mounted Push Button Starter Switch which was faulty & was covered under the supplier's Warranty. Leaking Clutch Master Cylinder seal, replaced. Oh & a tail light Bulb.

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    Uteman

    I transitioned from a Perentie 110 wagon (that I rebuild - ground up) to a 2008 tdv8 L322. I still have the 110 very temporarily as it rarely is driven and I have another perentie project to do. So I understand holding on to something you’ve invested in.

    From my perspective:
    • having an interest is important;
    • an interest that doubles as a useful thing like a daily driver is great to have;
    • no vehicle is perfect;
    • your 2004 td6 maybe a good viable vehicle to retain, at least for a while;
    • the L322 is an impressive vehicle, that got better with each new release;
    • there is no doubt new vehicle technology has improved driver satisfaction (for most) and safety (both in preventing and surviving an incident);
    • the L322 got better than your 2004, so consider test driving a later model. The last of them was in 2012.

    So I would consider upgrading your current L322 to a later L322 or L494, with extra safety features. That’s what I’ll do in about 6 or 7 years, and will also look at a post 2016 L405.

    If you decide to go this way, take you’re time finding a good one (eg presents well, and excessively serviced). They are out there for those who wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    I'll add to this excellent thread. If well meaning family are pushing you into a decision which will affect your lifestyle be very careful.

    You present your RR as a major part of your life/daily activity. Remove it and then what....do you get out of bed with nothing to look forward to except looking at the new Camry in the garage whilst regretting selling the RR. If the RR breaks down you can fix it....with a smile on your face......so what if it now takes you days to do a job which you could do in hours when you were younger. The important thing is that your RR makes you happy with it just being there let alone driving it and probably fixing it although you seem to have done the major expensive repairs.

    I am over 70 but not yet 80 and cop pressure to give up heading bush every day - for safety reasons - move my 1994 RR LSE on ...and my Paj swapped for a car but no way. The RR puts a smile on my face every day even if it just cost a bucket of sheckles to fix and the Paj....well it wouldn't dare break down and leave me stranded amongst the gum trees. Without the fourbys, my dog and the bush what reason do I have to get out of bed.....daily TV.....bakery coffee whilst window shopping....YUK....no thanks.

    I suggest you seriously consider your options and the consequences of decisions.

    Cheers, good luck and enjoy your self.
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