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    Restricted performance

    Hi everyone, took delivery of our new to us 2011 vogue 4.4TDV8 delivered this morning from Perth, on our 120klm trip home “Restricted Performance” came up we stopped for a while and started again fine all the way home till I got off the highway, thought I would put my foot down from the lights and see if it came on and yes, stopped again, fault gone managed to get it over 2500 rpm a couple of times, no code then hit 3000 rpm and on again. Car has been sitting for a couple of months, whilst he was selling it, then trip on truck from Perth, starts and small drives, but no good runs. Got home put scanner on and these are the codes. Do you think a fuel additive and a good run down the highway to clean it out, can’t do any harm, did that with a BMW we bought same thing been sitting around.3137ED46-D2A9-4D35-BE5B-2196DFBF8A45.jpgBEF0877D-50EB-4FA5-B7AF-236D1F1199D2.jpg

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    If the hoses haven't already been replaced, it's likely to be leaking at one or more of the 4 short hoses that connect the air distributor to the intake manifolds. Cut up a piece of 70mm (IIRC) silicone hose to make replacements.

    If not the hoses then the secondary inlet air valve could be sticky if the valve is the original style. The valve is seen looking directly down between the left half (right half when facing the engine) of the radiator and the engine.
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    The 4 in the first picture. The rear 2 are half covered by the cabin air intake which is easily removed by removing 1 nut each side and pulling the whole assembly forwards and upwards, leaving easy access to the back half of the engine.

    I can't see the hoses well enough to determine if they are the original with bellows in the centre or straight hoses. If straight and you can't see any blackness around them then they could be OK.
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    The change-over valve is directly ahead of and a little below the air conditioner pulley. If the pivot pin for the connection of the arm of the vacuum chamber has a nut when looking down at it then the pivot is the early version. A vacuum chamber and linkage update kit is available to convert the valve to the later model, rather than have to replace the whole valve. If your valve is the early version then clean the pivot with WD40 or similar.
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    I expect those hoses to be genuine replacements with the line-up marks for the clamps as they certainly aren't the originals. Time to check the air change-over valve and lubricate the pivot if it has a nut.
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    Tried a few things no good, took it down to my mechanic he put it on his scanner, he checked the vacuum chamber and pivot point was working fine, did a smoke test for all the hoses, he worked for over an hour on it rang another guy that works on RR and checked everything he suggested, he tried one last thing he checked a sensor underneath the motor pulled the lead off and it was coated in oil, cleaned it all up couldn’t find where oil was coming from, test drove took a lot longer to come on, thought he had fixed it until last burst before arriving back and fault came up, damn he didn’t charge me for the work it’s a big shop well known in town. Nice guy. He thinks it’s just something simple, it’s just a case of finding it, Suggested I go out to the guy he rang Wade Brothers auto so I’ll head out in the morning, have a couple of jobs on this arvo.

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    It's not a common occurrence but the solenoid that controls the air flow to the change-over valve can fail, but there is a test for the solenoid/valve operation so no need to start throwing parts at it. The solenoid is only available with all vacuum tubes so won't be cheap.

    Clean the MAP sensor (in the top of the air distributor) because if it's clogged with oily soot then it can give a false reading. Only use a spray cleaner - don't poke anything into it.

    The oil may be from leaking o-rings on the turbo oil feed pipe at the back of the oil cooler and/or the oil cooler gaskets as the gaskets harden. The 2 o-rings are easily replaced but fit Viton - BS611 size.
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    All fixed

    Took it to Wade bros, ran tests and did a full smoke test, cleaned all connections including vacuum hoses, smoke back through intercooler, refitted everything making sure of good seal, we drove it testing the turbo boost control valve on computer and it matched the command graph % and I noticed it wasn’t going into restricted performance anymore, gave it a good run uphill in sport mode keeping it at 3000rpm and was all good, so not sure what we did but smoke showed no leaks at idle but under pressure?? So maybe cleaning and moving the pipework and moving clamps and tightening did it. Thanks for all the advice

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