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Thread: (Yet Another) M62TU Timing Chain and Vanos Replacement

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    (Yet Another) M62TU Timing Chain and Vanos Replacement

    TLDR: I (accidentally) purchased L322 4.4L, no rattle of death. Was planning a timing chain & Vanos replacement over the Summer. Death rattle started 2-3 weeks after purchase. Planned to spend around $1k. Went slightly over budget.
    Current status: Awaiting parts.

    So, as above, I purchased a 2004 L322 unintentionally.
    On purchase, I listened very carefully for any rattles, both on startup and after a warm up. I knew the Vanos / Timing Chains might need doing at some stage, so budgeted that into the purchase price. I thought I would take my time researching the best way to complete the job, do plenty of reading and watching etc.
    Fast forward a couple of weeks, and an oil flush and change. I lifted the bonnet one day while the engine was running, and wondered when someone had installed a diesel engine into my vehicle. It sounded a bit clackety, mainly when warm. Not wanting to take any chances, I decided a chain job may be in order.
    So I turned to the internet, including, but not limited to FisherX's post here.

    I will put a table below of the parts and part numbers of what I ended up ordering. I thought while I was in the engine, I would complete a couple of other jobs while I was there and things were apart. Some scope creep happened, and I think I am about 450% over budget (and counting).

    I ordered the German Auto Solutions timing kit.

    I purchased parts from eBay, AliExpress, FCP Euro, Island4X4, and Amazon. Some parts have arrived, other parts are making their way to me from around the globe.

    Some of the other jobs I thought I would do include:
    replace all cooling hoses
    valley pan
    thermostat - 88 degree one
    water pump
    serpentine belts
    PCV
    Transgo valve

    I have made a start on taking things apart. It has been relatively straight forward so far. I thought it would take me a lot longer. My new favourite tool that I purchased with this job in mind is a (Makita DTW1002Z) battery ratchet wrench. Two thumbs up is my verdict.

    I am waiting on my cam locking tools before proceeding further. I have removed the radiator, and have exposed the water cooling valley.
    I did order a cooling fan removal spanner kit, but Toll seem to have misplaced it, so I made a fan bolt holder with a piece of aluminum flat I had laying around, and I already had a 32mm spanner.

    I forgot to order a couple of gaskets and small things, so I had to order them from both the local BMW dealer and the Range Rover dealer (Adelaide BMW & Solitaire)
    I forgot about the alternator gasket and cam sensor O-Rings in particular, but also decided to replace some water pump bolts (due to excessive rust on one of them).

    I also lost a valve cover nut. When I dropped it, I couldn't find it and figured it would be a couple of dollars to replace. The part number is LDC000020 (Range Rover) / 11121747162 (BMW) incase someone else does the same thing. I would highly recommend spending the time to find it however, as a replacement one is $39 from Range Rover, or $49 from BMW. I found one at U Pull It (self serve wrecker).

    I dropped my fuel injectors to KPM Motorsport (www.kpmfuelsystems.com.au) to have them rebuilt. $30 per injector for a rebuild, with static and dynamic flow rate test results available after the rebuild. Once I receive them back, I will try and post my results if anyone is interested.

    Anyway, below is a table of parts that may (or may not) be helpful to anyone else performing the job.
    There are a combination of Land Rover and BMW part numbers.
    I used RealOEM (I put in a 2003 BMW X5 E53 with 4.4i engine) (RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog) and Search Genuine Land Rover Parts For Range Rover 2002 - 2009 | Jaguar Land Rover Classic Parts for most of my part number searches.

    One other thing of interest is that I got hit by a $270 import duty bill on my Island 4X4 order. This was sent from and paid directly to DHL. This was unexpected. The order total from Island 4X4 was about $1,300 (I got a GAP IID tool, plus other parts).
    If it is of interest to people considering ordering from Island 4X4, shipping was £75.

    I did get a genuine coolant overflow cap, I think there is a post on this forum somewhere recommending against aftermarket.

    Also, I take no responsibility if you order non genuine parts and your engine explodes / the part doesn't fit.

    I'll add updates here as I progress.

    Also of some interest (?), I absolutely love(d) driving the L322! I had a P38 when I purchased the L322. While the P38 is a fun / nice vehicle to drive, the L322 is in another league. Except in the comfortableness of the driver's seat. The P38 seat is like sitting in the most comfortable La-Z-Boy / lounge chair. Absolute bliss. The leather is soft and supple and pillow like. The L322 seat is like most any other European vehicle from that era.

    Anyway, enjoy my table of parts below. Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything.


    Vanos Orings / seals With Press Besian
    thermostat (88 degree) 11512248542, 70807846, 70809216 Ebay
    Transgo Valve 5HP-24-PR Ebay Transgo Pressure Regulator Valve ZF5HP24 Trans BMW Jaguar Rover (SK5HP24-PR)* | eBay
    intake manifold gasket x4, PCV Gasket, throttle body gasket 11611433328, 11611729728, 11611729727 Ebay
    Hylomar M Ebay
    Molykote 111 Ebay
    Stahlbus Oil Drain Valve Plug M14x1.5x12mm Amazon
    Valley pan cover (black) & Valley Pan 11141736106, 11141742042 Amazon
    water pump 11511713266, 11510393336, 11511742598, 8510324, PEB000030 Amazon
    Trans Thermostat PBM000010, 17107559966 Amazon
    pcv (Crankcase Breather Valve) 11617508541 11611438272 LKR000040 aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002553454087.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6af54c 4dcOMO1C
    Timing Chain kit aliexpress M62 TU timing chains and Vanos rebuild
    Aux Fan Switch Temp sensor 13621433077, MEK105210 aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3280...27424c4d3Lh7gi
    Water Dual Temperature Switch in water pump 13621703993 aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...27424c4d3Lh7gi
    MAF 0280217814 13621433567 MHK000230 aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3272...27424c4d3Lh7gi
    Vanos Solenoid x2 11367524489 aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3285...27424c4d3Lh7gi
    Air compressor rebuild aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3301...27424c4d3Lh7gi
    Coolant hose kit JHC000081, PCH001051, PCH001061, PCH001070, PCH001110, PCH001121, PCH001130, PCH001140, PCH001150, PCH001600, PEH000112, PEH000200LR island4x4 https://www.island-4x4.co.uk/hose-co...5-p-38211.html
    trans filter, gasket & oring LPW000030, TYF000110, TYX000100 island4x4
    serpantine belt A/C long LR051050 island4x4
    oil pan sump gasket LVF000040 island4x4
    Crank Pulley Bolt Jesus LFH000050, 11231736585, 11231710298, 11231725000, 11231725636 island4x4
    front seal Crankshaft 11141275466, 11141265431, 11141274346, 11141736932, LUC000010 island4x4
    serpanine belt alt short PQS000220 island4x4
    Expansion Tank Cap (genuine) PCD000070, 17111742232, 17111719167, 17112242256, 17114379048, 17137639023 island4x4
    Blue Silicone Vacuum Hose x2 11731259996, 11747797082, 11731365136, 51731259953, 51731470038 FCP
    VANOS oil check valve x2 11121706921 FCP
    Oil Cap 11127509328 FCP
    Dipstick o ring 11431707164 FCP
    Dipstick Washer 11437838127 FCP
    tornado oil separator 11151705237 FCP
    Vent Hose A (oil) 11157556837 FCP
    Vent Hose B (oil) 11157556838 FCP
    Oil Return Hose A 11151438302 FCP
    Oil Return Hose B 11157560068 FCP
    Oil Return Pipe O ring x2 13821432344 FCP
    Oil Filters x4 11427510717 FCP
    Cooling o ring A x2 11531710048 FCP
    Cooling O RIng B x2 11531710055 FCP
    Hex bolt with washer x20 (m6x25) 07119905400, 07119900249, 07119900601, 07119913110, 88100150315, 9905400 FCP
    thermostat / water accumulator gasket x2 11531731833 FCP
    Water Pump Gasket beaded 11511731372 FCP
    coolant expansion tank PCF000033, 17137501959 FCP
    Camshaft Solenoid Gasket x2 11141435023 FCP
    timing chain tensioner to timing cover 07119963355, 07119963357 adelaide BMW
    alternator o ring 12317507996 adelaide BMW
    Water Pump Bolt x4 07119906123, LR009824 adelaide bmw / solitaire
    Trans cooler o-ring 17101439140 / PYX000070 adelaide bmw / solitaire
    Camshaft position o ring x2 12141748398 / NYX100070L adelaide bmw / solitaire
    Cam locking tool German Auto Solutions https://germanautosolutions.com/stor...kit-bmw-m62tu/

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    WOW that's a lot of parts

    Good luck and keep us up to date on your progress when you start.
    04 L322 Vogue V8 - Work truck
    07 Freelander 2 TD4 SE - The wifes
    74 Leyland P76 Targa Florio - Aspen Green
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    Previous LRs = 78IIa series - 81, 93, 95 RRC - D2V8

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    Rather than a new cap for the coming system, you definitely want to get a new coolant reservoir.

    They are known for splitting...

    Unless your radiator and transmission cooler are less than 8 years old, you should definitely replace those too.

    FCPEuro is your friend - worked out at $200 USD inc shipping for a Mahle-Behr radiator which is incredible value.

    When you say "death rattle", when the timing chain guides go, usually it sounds like someone rattling a whole box of metal tools together... It sounded from what you said in your post that you are describing vanos / diesel knocking sound?

    How many km has it done?

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    welcome to the m62 party. much of that parts list looks familiar haha
    05 L322 Range Rover | BMW M62 4.4 | Cairns Blue
    07 Lexus GS450h | 2GR-FSE Hybrid | Blue Onyx Pearl

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    Well, progress has been slow. I am awaiting my timing tools from German Auto Solutions - which have been stuck in Chicago for about 3 weeks now. Thanks USPS.

    I removed the rear cooling manifold to replace the gaskets - one of the bolt heads snapped off, which provided some fun.

    I am also part way through the PCV replacement, I can't progress further until the bolts for the coolant manifold arrive.

    When I was replacing the oil separator, I noticed the short hose at the bottom had been replaced at some stage in its life. It had a tridon branded hose clamp on it, and some generic 3/8 transmission oil hose at the bottom - certainly not factory parts.

    Nutttr:

    I did indeed purchase a new coolant reservoir. Originally I intended to purchase a new radiator and trans oil cooler, however I went well well well over budget, so I will save them for another time in the not to distant future. I am aware that they may fail sometime, and will keep a close eye on them. The radiator has a 2010 date stamp on it - it has obviously been replaced at some stage. I have been an FCP customer for a long time now. $200 USD sounds a bit cheap - Nissens brand from FCP is USD $163, Mahle-Behr was USD $215, and shipping is USD $102. I'll probably get one from China when the time comes.

    The vehicle has about 240k on it.

    I suspect the rattle was more Vanos - sounded like a diesel as opposed to tools rattling around, however I didn't particularly want to roll the dice and end up having to replace / rebuild the engine!

    In other news, it looks like I will need to replace the airbags all round, they only held air for about 2 days before dropping to access height....

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    Airbags leaking can be many issues....

    The air system wakes up every 6 hours and tries to "level" the car to the wheel that's "highest" (i.e. if you park on a slope it tries to make the car semi-level, i.e. flat, not so angled...).

    You are best putting it to normal height, feel around the base of the airbags in the front and see if there are any cracks or splits... The rear bags rarely go, but do the same.

    Then once you are convinced there's not obvious big cracks (any splitting means it's on borrowed time, I've got a leaking front bag at the moment!), remove the air suspension fuse from the fuse box (I think the air ECU is in the front fuse box behind the glove box and the pump fuse is in the rear, don't remove it, only remove the front one)... Then next day or so, see which one has dropped. It's that corner that's the issue. If you park it in the right conditions, you can sometimes come back to a car on the bump stops... And it happens automatically, not because they are leaking.

    Also, there could be a leak in the valve block or the air lines, but the bag itself is much more likely.

    And those radiators have gone up a bit in price! I paid $180 for the radiator and $30 for shipping to Sydney (and then a $10 discount voucher)... I got the Behr one.

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