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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
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    At least if the 4.4 TDV8's oil level sensor was to fail then it simply unbolts from underneath, unlike the TDV6 in any LR and the 4.4 TDV8 in the L494/L405 where the sump has to be removed.
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    Haven't discounted the notion of purchasing an m62 engined model, don't seem to be any m57's out here and no way am I going to TDV land- if I wanted that kind of headache, I'd buy a mercedes.

    Defenders are starting to look more appealing though. Bit agricultural, but then again, it makes sense when every second vehicle you see up here is a 75/6/8/9 redneck truck and the remainder seem to be pootrolls.

    Disco's not common, have seen a couple (rude ba**ards don't wave though) and the oddball defender (actually I think it's the same guy who just seems to drive it around in circles every time we go into town)

    You lot aren't making a compelling case to lure me into an L322 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercguy View Post
    Haven't discounted the notion of purchasing an m62 engined model, don't seem to be any m57's out here and no way am I going to TDV land- if I wanted that kind of headache, I'd buy a mercedes.

    Defenders are starting to look more appealing though. Bit agricultural, but then again, it makes sense when every second vehicle you see up here is a 75/6/8/9 redneck truck and the remainder seem to be pootrolls.

    Disco's not common, have seen a couple (rude ba**ards don't wave though) and the oddball defender (actually I think it's the same guy who just seems to drive it around in circles every time we go into town)

    You lot aren't making a compelling case to lure me into an L322 though.
    I have a facebook friend that posted photos of ... I think it was doing the rocker cover gaskets. He had the body lifted on a hoist in order to do this simple job The car itself sounds phenomenal

    I'm thinking the body must be quick and simple to lift ( you have to own a 2post hoist) as working on it seems to require the body being out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by disco gazza View Post
    I really like my 2003 L322.
    Beautiful BMW 6cylinder (which is still produced to this day,with upgraded bits and pieces to it)
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    Actually this is not quite accurate. The M57 found in the L322 is the first version, code M57D30 know as being 2.9L.
    By the time the L322 was in production the M57 used in BMW vehicles had already been updated growing to 3.0L as the M57D30TU. Along with the increase in stroke, this version received an increase in fuel injection pressure along with a few other minor updates.
    In 2005 there was significant changes with the M57D30TU2, which includes an alloy block with steel liners instead of a full cast iron block, also piezo injectors.
    The last M57 fitted by BMW was the twin turbo version of the M57D30TU2 into the 335d ending in 2012. Ironically the 330d (single turbo 3L) was one of the first models to get the N57 engine in 2008 - for 4 yrs the single and twin turbo versions of the 3 series had completely different 3.0L engines... Sounds crazy but I believe it was to get the twin turbo 335d into the US with the cheaper engine - the only M57 vehicles sold in the US were the 335d and 535d.

    The M57 was replaced by the N57 which was a complete ground up redesign - nothing carried over. In 2015 the N57 started to be replaced by the new B57.

    As someone who owned a TD6 L322 for nearly 10 yrs and currently has multiple BMW N57 powered vehicles littering my yard, I can say they indeed are very much not the same engine apart from being 3L and 6cyl. I will also add that the early M57 2.9/3.0 with the cast Iron block are regarded as the best 3.0L BMW diesel for longevity. Bigger turbo, bigger injectors and fuel pump along with stronger valve springs and 1000nm with the stock bottom end is common.

    Your statement about the engine still being produced today is not correct - however the intent of the message that it is a fantastic engine is widely regarded as true and one I agree with completely. (I know I'm picking)



    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    I'd hate to have to work on or pay someone to work on a TDV8 engine. You'd need deep pockets.
    I've owned and worked on both the TD6 and 3.6TDv8. The v8 is much easier to work on the front of the engine, viscus fan removal and water pump swap was much easier on the v8. The TD6 obviously has more room on each side - a lot more room, things like turbos and alternator are painful on the v8.
    Air suspension was dramatically improved on the My07 and on. My TDv8 is still on original bags all round at 16 yrs of age - all the earlier versions leak through the swivel on the front struts.
    In short - I don't agree with the early version is easier / cheaper as a blanket statement - or the other way.



    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    At least if the 4.4 TDV8's oil level sensor was to fail then it simply unbolts from underneath, unlike the TDV6 in any LR and the 4.4 TDV8 in the L494/L405 where the sump has to be removed.
    And things like that are why I preferred to get a 3.6, it has a strange thing called a dipstick.



    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I have a facebook friend that posted photos of ... I think it was doing the rocker cover gaskets. He had the body lifted on a hoist in order to do this simple job The car itself sounds phenomenal


    I'm thinking the body must be quick and simple to lift ( you have to own a 2post hoist) as working on it seems to require the body being out of the way.
    Really - your friend is doing engine work on his L322 with the body lifted? What's the engine sitting on while this is happening? amazing...

    For factual reference just in case anyone is reading this looking for advice - the practice of lifting the body off the frame as done with D3/4 and older RR sport is not possible with the full size RR L322 due to the fact it has no chassis for the body to be lifted off. Like all new Land Rovers including the new Defender, the L322 is a monocoque.
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    *IF* I were to purchase an L322....

    Yeah, would be an RRS your friend has the body off - no need (or way) of doing this with an L322.

    Loved most of mine - the M57 engine was a ripper and not hard to work on if needed. Biggest let down of the early ones if the GM transmission which is diabolical. When buying one assume you’ll need to rebuild the transmission- even if the seller says it’s been done - use this to haggle $7K off the price and as mentioned get Rhys to rebuild it then it will last for ages.

    Great vehicle though. *IF*  I were to purchase an L322....
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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