Discovery 5

You're all missing my point. I'm not saying Land Rover shouldn't build new, safer, more efficient vehicles. I'm saying that their market focus has changed entirely.

In another thread I've also said they should have redesigned Defender a decade ago, for the reasons you all give above! But that they should keep the same shape and practical focus as its reason for being. However I'm even more disheartened now to see D5 watered down. As s barometer for Land Rovers priorities, I would have thought it was letting you guys down too. ...I now hold no hope for a genuine new (safe and practical) Defender design.

...looking forward to the first D5 threads about tyre sizes and how all the roads up north are too corrugated!

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

You're all missing my point. I'm not saying Land Rover shouldn't build new, safer, more efficient vehicles. I'm saying that their market focus has changed entirely.

In another thread I've also said they should have redesigned Defender a decade ago, for the reasons you all give above! But that they should keep the same shape and practical focus as its reason for being. However I'm even more disheartened now to see D5 watered down. As s barometer for Land Rovers priorities, I would have thought it was letting you guys down too. ...I now hold no hope for a genuine new (safe and practical) Defender design.

...looking forward to the first D5 threads about tyre sizes and how all the roads up north are too corrugated!

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So why are you constantly rubbishing the Discovery vehicles and endlessly attaching negative connotations to the imminent D5? We get your view, do we ever, that the direction Land Rover seems to be taking is not to your liking but your incessant snipes here are being made to the wrong people, go and sign up to Twitter or facebook and make your views clear to Land Rover themselves. In the meantime have some patience, wait and see what they do with the next defender. I think you will find it to be worthy of the Defender name. Land Rover are very aware of their heritage, why do you think all these "soccer mum SUVs" are so capable?

I think (hope!) the new Defender will be great. After the back lash they received for the horrible DC100, they will build a great 4x4. I think this is why we haven't seen it yet due to them going back to the drawing board[emoji122]
No use presuming what they will build before it's built.
As they said, Rangie family for luxury, Disco family for families, Defender for true 4x4ing. (Not that you can't do that anyway in the others[emoji14])

MrLandy, I don't think Land Rover have changed their direction, on the contrary I think they have known where they are going all along.

And you're assuming that the Discovery 5 is watered down based on what it looks like, don't you know you should never judge a book by its cover ❓

People said that about the D3/4 and it has turned out to be the most capable SUV in the world.

Just because they changed the shape doesn't reflect its capabilities or its practicality.

I like the new shape it will be better once we get past all the Camo and see them for what they are.

You on the other hand could also be right with your comments but they are way too premature and too frequent. It becomes tired after a while and it's not just an opinion anymore when you go on without the facts.

Ultimately these vehicles are designed for practicality D3,4,5 they are designed to do everything well, the Defender only does one thing well and that's off road, so unless your Alby Mangles, Les Hidden, Mike or Mal then they're really not all that practical are they.

The more I drive my Discovery it makes me think if I go ahead and build my Defender that I want to get and go the LS3 conversion, will I ever drive it enough? I don't think so. It will just be a money pit toy. So if I do buy one I think it will be just a collectors type vehicle when I'm bored I'll go up to the local shops and buy a meat pie in it, that's it.

I often have these wonderful thoughts of having a knitted out Defender taking my boys and go drive Cape York etc. having a real adventure, you know the iconic Defender etc.

But then reality hits, if I have a Discovery and a Defender in the driveway for this iconic trip I think the Defender will loose. Many variables bring me to that conclusion and I probably speak for others, if I was single I probably would have just stuck with the Defender and not known any better and even would probably chuff at those disco drivers but that ship has sailed for me and many others.

Our decision on what we want in a off road vehicle is not based on what we want but what we want for our families, our business, our lifestyles.

So you see MrLandy this is why Land Rover make the decision they make, there is no more Bush Tucker man, Mike and Mal or Alby these days it's Bear Grills and all those Yankee YouTube survivalist.

What's better an old iconic Mustang or the new Mustang ha ha ha you can stick the dinosaur up ya you know what, I'll take the one with more power more safety and better handling. Same goes with what we are talking about. Yes the old Mustang is iconic and it was a legend in its days but those days are gone.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

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Originally Posted by Babs

MrLandy, I don't think Land Rover have changed their direction, on the contrary I think they have known where they are going all along.

And you're assuming that the Discovery 5 is watered down based on what it looks like, don't you know you should never judge a book by its cover ❓

People said that about the D3/4 and it has turned out to be the most capable SUV in the world.

Just because they changed the shape doesn't reflect its capabilities or its practicality.

I like the new shape it will be better once we get past all the Camo and see them for what they are.

You on the other hand could also be right with your comments but they are way too premature and too frequent. It becomes tired after a while and it's not just an opinion anymore when you go on without the facts.

Ultimately these vehicles are designed for practicality D3,4,5 they are designed to do everything well, the Defender only does one thing well and that's off road, so unless your Alby Mangles, Les Hidden, Mike or Mal then they're really not all that practical are they.

The more I drive my Discovery it makes me think if I go ahead and build my Defender that I want to get and go the LS3 conversion, will I ever drive it enough? I don't think so. It will just be a money pit toy. So if I do buy one I think it will be just a collectors type vehicle when I'm bored I'll go up to the local shops and buy a meat pie in it, that's it.

I often have these wonderful thoughts of having a knitted out Defender taking my boys and go drive Cape York etc. having a real adventure, you know the iconic Defender etc.

But then reality hits, if I have a Discovery and a Defender in the driveway for this iconic trip I think the Defender will loose. Many variables bring me to that conclusion and I probably speak for others, if I was single I probably would have just stuck with the Defender and not known any better and even would probably chuff at those disco drivers but that ship has sailed for me and many others.

Our decision on what we want in a off road vehicle is not based on what we want but what we want for our families, our business, our lifestyles.

So you see MrLandy this is why Land Rover make the decision they make, there is no more Bush Tucker man, Mike and Mal or Alby these days it's Bear Grills and all those Yankee YouTube survivalist.

What's better an old iconic Mustang or the new Mustang ha ha ha you can stick the dinosaur up ya you know what, I'll take the one with more power more safety and better handling. Same goes with what we are talking about. Yes the old Mustang is iconic and it was a legend in its days but those days are gone.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

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Very well said. Defenders make even less sense when you can buy a good used D4 with all the bells and whistles for less.

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

..looking forward to the first D5 threads about tyre sizes and how all the roads up north are too corrugated!

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I expect it will be shod with 31" tyres just like the current RR & RRS so 275/55R20 will be the popular slightly oversize choice as there are quite a few different brands/treads/load ratings in this size already fitted to L494s.

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Originally Posted by Babs

Ultimately these vehicles are designed for practicality D3,4,5 they are designed to do everything well, the Defender only does one thing well and that's off road

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Just because you had two failed marriages with Defenders doesn't mean the rest of us aren't enjoying happy, loving relationships with ours ;)

Getting back to Discovery - I'm curious. The D5 has shed the tough Discovery look in favour of the homogenised corporate design and appears to have become more fashionable, comfortable and luxurious. Assuming it's priced similarly or a little higher than the outgoing model, what would the main reasons be for someone buying a D5 over an RRS?

Their dimensions will be very similar, both are immensely capable off-road, they share styling cues, both can carry seven passengers...Why not buy the Rangie? :confused:

Good point A86, however, I think the question should be asked the other way with the RRS most certainly being the more expensive of the models if the current D4 pricing is anything to go by.

And the new Discovery will definitely be larger than the RRS.

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Originally Posted by Andrew86

Just because you had two failed marriages with Defenders doesn't mean the rest of us aren't enjoying happy, loving relationships with ours ;)





Their dimensions will be very similar, both are immensely capable off-road, they share styling cues, both can carry seven passengers...Why not buy the Rangie? :confused:

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My two failed marriages were because I found out the Grass IS Greener on the other side ;)

And I'm confused now since when does the RR Carry 7 :o is there two extra seats I don't know about ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner