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I was just telling SWMBO about the D5 & how, amongst other things, there is phone app to adjust/fold the seats.
Her immediate reaction was:
You forget about the antique vase you left on the seat & crush it.
And, the kids get hold of your phone while you are driving & start folding, unfolding & moving seats forward or back.
She thought the last one would be very funny & something she would do!
Jonesfam
I read there is a sensor in the seat and if it senses anything on the seat it stops the seat from folding down, so the antique vase is safe.
Also doesn't allow seats to be folded in operation mode.
Did you all notice that the drivers and passenger seats both move forward a bit when the centre row folds? That might be an issue for tall drivers.
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Originally Posted by BobD
Current model requires the same.
You can move it back once the middle row is down.
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Originally Posted by Tombie
Thanks Tombie. I must have mine further forward because I've never noticed it! I know it sometimes touches as it goes down though, so I guess with electronic operation that is not possible. I didn't see the front seats return to their original positions in the videos, however. Did you?
That's a good question Mick.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
I think LR inadvertently left a lot of want-to-be owners in a quandary.
For me, I loved camping and wanted to get to places a 2WD couldn't. I was also on the cusp of buying a European luxury sedan. I couldn't afford both so I needed something in the middle. Being Ex-Military, I'd driven my fair share of 110s and didn't see that as the fit. LR should have done something to seriously modernise the Defender generations ago (IMHO). Range Rover was in my opinion too far the other way (again ... at the time My Opinion). Other brands just didn't do it for me (That opinion hasn't changed ... LOL).
Disco fitted the bill in most areas but I felt it was leaning towards the RR side too much. Refreshingly, whilst they are definitely a shopping trolley for some, I've seen way more D4s off road than I've ever seen LC200s and possibly other LR products. And that number is increasing noticeably.
Discovery owners I'd say, due to the number I see off-road these days, are relishing that very wide middle ground.....meaning...a D4 is a weapon off and on the road. It's not such a heavy handling beast as it looks on road and it is far more durable and capable off road than most people could imagine.
To your original point though ... and to mine .... had LR kept the Defender contemporary, people like myself would probably be driving them. The Discovery phenomena wouldn't have been discovered (oops ... pun). But I really don't want the Disco 5 to lean any further towards RR ... I'd prefer it leaning towards where the Deefer should be had it been continuously modernised. More solid and forgiving than a D4 but much, much nicer and better in the comfort and driveability stakes than the Deefer.
I think the Disco fits better on the Deefer side of the fence than the RR.
Does that make sense?
Kev.
I suspect that this is the territory that the 2018 Defender will aim to occupy, with the Discovery still straddling between RR luxury (with extra size) and offroad capability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtoid
The delineation between models won't completely make sense until the Defender is out.
The other thing is that so far we've only really seen the D5 focus on the top-end or flagship version, hence the electric seats, etc.
This is a typical marketing strategy for a launch and not the full story.
The lower spec versions will still be there and hopefully they will offer a better balance of features & durability, like the D4.
Cheers,
Scott
Is it true we're not going to get the base S D5? I guess that will leave a bigger gap for the upper range models of the new Defender to fill in its durable role.
LRA is renown for stripping the Australian market of features or pushing them into expensive add on packs.
I have no doubt it will be the same for the D5.