Discovery 5

The new RRS seems to be ok (except doors opening). However, it's using a similar motor and transmission to the the L320. OK the new ones got more power in the SDV6.

The Discovery Sport is having a few problems but fairly trouble free. LR used a similar motor, transmission, suspension & diff to the Evoque. The motor is moving to the new Ingenium motor.

The D4 didn't have any real dramas when released. However, again LR used a similar motor and transmission to the D3. OK the 3.0 sequential turbo was new. LR also used this strategy on the Evoque when they initially used a similar motor, transmission and diff to the Freelander 2.

I'm tipping the D5 will come out with a similar motor & transmission as the new RRS. The RRS will get the 6 cylinder Ingenium first. The D5 will probably have a cheaper high range version like the new RRS. IMO the D5 is likely to get the hybrid like the RRV & RRS. It's just good marketing.

For me, if the Defender comes out with 5 star crash and air suspension, and I am betting on both then it will be new Defender for me.

I was in the same quandary in December. I ended up going for the new RRS. While it's a beautiful car and great to drive I do not have the same feeling for it as I did when I got the D4 5 years ago - funnily, I feel like a bit of a fraud driving it. If I am in a position to, I would like to go for the defender when this lease is up in 5 years (if I don't sell it before hand). That will allow plenty of time to pass for gremlins in both new vehicles to be sorted out.

In short, buy the car you want now to see you past the introduction of the D5 or Defender, then take it from there.

PS RAR110, there are no 2WD RRS'. the cheaper ones have no low range that's all which means they don't have rock crawl on their terrain response systems.

I nearly bought a povo pack RRS for very little more than the D4.

I too am eagerly awaiting the new Defender.

Hopefully now they have finished production of the old one they might start drip feeding information on the new one.

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Originally Posted by SBD4

In short, buy the car you want now to see you past the introduction of the D5 or Defender, then take it from there.

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This is exactly how I'm thinking. In an ideal world I would have a D4 that's say 5 or 6 years old and well set up that I could look after and hold on to, plus get either a D5 or Defender that is by then a few years through teething issues and that most appeals or offers something different to the D4. I'm thinking that I will find it very difficult to get rid of this D4.

But if I was needing to turn over the D4 shortly, I'd certainly get another one and see what happens. I spose they rely on there being plenty of people who are happy to be early adopters.

Scott

My current D4 is by far the best car I have ever owned; whilst she is only 4 years old I can't help but be tempted by a new car ( a massive case of want over need I think).
It's a bit of "no mans land at present"..hold onto the D4 or upgrade at expense for the next 3-4 years to a new D4; whilst the D5 / new Defender sort themselves out...
Glad, in a somewhat perverse way, to hear that others have had the same dilemma ;-)

Cheers

The 4cyl Ingenium been running around for 6 months now,,
surely the V6 will be used in the D5 from the start.

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Originally Posted by SBD4

PS RAR110, there are no 2WD RRS'. the cheaper ones have no low range that's all which means they don't have rock crawl on their terrain response systems.

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Sorry, yes I knew that. Confused myself with the other brands offerings. Thanks.

If they make me a good offer at the end of my lease,I wouldnt hesitate to upgrade and get a newie.Love this one to bits.
Andrew

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Originally Posted by SBD4

I was in the same quandary in December. I ended up going for the new RRS. While it's a beautiful car and great to drive I do not have the same feeling for it as I did when I got the D4 5 years ago - funnily, I feel like a bit of a fraud driving it. If I am in a position to, I would like to go for the defender when this lease is up in 5 years.

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Mate, I know what your saying with the Range Rover decal. I felt, it's a bit posh for me, coming from a 1989 110. My soon to be 8 yr old RRV is a great car. I'm enjoying it a lot, on and occasionally off road. I have days where I occasionally get the bird but never a defender wave. Oh well.

Re the new Defender I will be very interested in what they produce. I think they will call it something else, not a defender. They're not in the defence game anymore. The lease is up on the RRV in 2019. I will probably sit back and listen to the feedback. I think the povo pack it will be like a Prado Kakadu. Coils and terrain response. The up spec wagons will have EAS. A bit like the D3 S & SE.

Back to the topic I think the D5 will be very much like a RRS.