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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannon View Post
    same thing happened when the D4 was released
    The D3, perhaps. We were well used to them before there was the D4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    The D3, perhaps. We were well used to them before there was the D4.
    Correct

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    Starting to grow on me, I like the look of this one...

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    just buy a perentie

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    Well, if you are going to wait for the new Defender you better pack a tent and a big lunch. It's not due for release until 2020 and that may mean longer by the time it gets Australian release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    Well, if you are going to wait for the new Defender you better pack a tent and a big lunch. It's not due for release until 2020 and that may mean longer by the time it gets Australian release.
    And the first of any new model is usually not real good,so a wait of a year or two,so that will be 2022.

    A bloody long wait.
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    I am obviously in the minority but I like the shape and the interior looks pretty amazing. More importantly (as it would be her car) the wife loves it.

    We recently moved back to the family farm and are now half looking at moving from her Volvo XC60 to a Disco. We have two pups - a lab and a border collie and we need more room. Also we feel a Land Rover should handle the roads better.

    We'd like the D5 but currently thinking we may pick up an older D4 for the next couple of years to wait for the D5 to iron out any issues (and by then we may have a new Defender and maybe I can convince her that will be better).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastFreo View Post
    We'd like the D5 but currently thinking we may pick up an older D4 for the next couple of years to wait for the D5 to iron out any issues (and by then we may have a new Defender and maybe I can convince her that will be better).
    Hi EastFreo, and you are not alone here.


    Over the past month or so, I have had quite a few NEW D4 owners ordering DBS kit for their NEW D4s.


    Many have made statements similar to yours, where they had been excitedly waiting for the D5, only to be disappointed and have bought a NEW D4 in preference to the underwhelming D5.


    On a similar note, I was recently asked by the local LR dealership, to give a quote and possibility of fitting one of my DBS to a new Range Rover Vogue.


    After spending some time crawling around a new RRV, I decided it was not worth my time to make up a new kit for these, as there is not likely to be much of a demand for this new RRV model.


    After crawling around the new RRV, I was very pleased I have now gone down another road.


    I have a new MY17 Tiguan and I was astonished to find the RRV had no more cabin space, and may be even less cabin space than my Tiguan.


    My 2007 RRV interior is literally a concert hall compared the the lavotory cubical sized interior of the new RRV.


    I did not get a chance to look over a D5 but it sounds like it has been designed with the same CAR size mentality the new RRV is.


    It is blatantly obvious that Land Rover is aiming at a different market to it’s traditional one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB View Post
    Damn, you guys are depressing. I'm new to this scene and have been so inspired by all the stories, the mods and methods, the sense of community especially around the Disco and Defender. Now you're making me fear it's the end of the era.

    I hope we see lots of innovation and positive stories about getting the most out of the Discovery 5. And I'm withholding judgement on the future of the LR brand until the next Defender comes out. There's a sense from the interviews with LR management that those cars could possibly be pitched right at this market of off road enthusiasts and outback tourers.

    Fingers firmly crossed.
    I wouldn't get too worried if I were you.

    I've been around the Land Rover scene since 1999. I well remember in the early 2000s rumours started to go around that the new Range Rover was going to get independent suspension. What? Didn't Land Rover realise that would mean the four wheel drive capacity would be compromised, because beam axles were necessary to keep all the wheels on the ground to give traction? This will be the end of Land Rover as a serious off road vehicle!

    Well, it happened. In 2002 the new Rangie was released with independent suspension. A few years later the Discovery 3 did the same. But things had changed. There was a mysterious yellow button for 'Terrain Response'. And these independent suspension Land Rovers went far better off road than any of the beam axle ones.

    Then there were rumours that Land Rover was about to release a model without a low range gearbox. End of the world Mk 2! It happened on the Evoque and the Disco Sport. But...the Disco Sport has a 9 speed gearbox. Which is one more gear than any of my beam axle Range Rovers had with both high and low range combined. And the Disco Sport is quite capable off road.

    So, people will complain about change and progress. And not every change suits everybody. But I am glad that we are not still with the beam axles we had back in the old days of the Rangie Classics. Progress is good, and there is some real good progress in Land Rover at the moment.

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    But the D5 is just plain dog ugly. Even the previous model - the fridge on 4 wheels looks better - and is more practical.
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