Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Said it once and ill say it again. If anyone is willing to back their d5 against my defender in the bush ill happily accept the challenge. After all according to this thread your d5 is more capable than anything else on the market so i should run away scared. Ill pick the track.......whem the plastic starts getting scratched we can all sit down and talk about how capable it is but how unlucky you were to scratch the panel. 🤣🤣🤣

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Let it also be measured on getting there, fuel used, and let’s do it in the gear of summer for good measure.

And return your Defender to std spec. [emoji6]

After all we’re talking a vehicle that the factory backs as more capable than the Defender..

Or perhaps we grab the bloke in the USA running a D4 on 35s... just to keep things on the level..

Or even pick a track with low hanging branches - well that could well stop a Defender in its tracks.

Perhaps we could do the Run from William Creek to Glendambo and onto Maralinga.. that’s by definition all offroad.. travel as fast as you feel comfortable..

Really. The Cock waving in this thread is bordering on ridiculous...

If you don’t like it. Fine. But stop rubbishing something that is capable - it’s just not your style or budget...

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Originally Posted by Tombie

-Seats are full size, more leg room... my 6’2” mate can sit in the back without issues.

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I don't doubt it, but I checked out a D5 against a D4 when they were in the same yard - I sat in all three rows of both cars and in the third row of the D5 your knees are definitely higher than in the D4. Which means that the seat is lower. The dealer said it as well, and reviews say the same thing. In any case, we're happy with our D4.

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Originally Posted by chuck

Can we take that challenge with the same level of modification as your defender.

& then add another challenge around how far we get on the same amount of fuel.

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My defender cost me less to build than any d5.
The Op's iasue was offraod, so considering the fact that his concern was that the d5 is inappropriate for his idea of offroad then the answer to your question is this;
Everyones touts how capable the d5 is, so ive put my noney where my mouth is; prove it, show me, come and scratch the thing. If you can hold back the tears while panels are buffering impacts then ill consider the thing capable of serious offroad.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Let it also be measured on getting there, fuel used, and let’s do it in the gear of summer for good measure.

And return your Defender to std spec. [emoji6]

After all we’re talking a vehicle that the factory backs as more capable than the Defender..

Or perhaps we grab the bloke in the USA running a D4 on 35s... just to keep things on the level..

Or even pick a track with low hanging branches - well that could well stop a Defender in its tracks.

Perhaps we could do the Run from William Creek to Glendambo and onto Maralinga.. that’s by definition all offroad.. travel as fast as you feel comfortable..

Really. The Cock waving in this thread is bordering on ridiculous...

If you don’t like it. Fine. But stop rubbishing something that is capable - it’s just not your style or budget...

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Id love to know how you come up with the defeiniton of capable in regards to the d5. On paper a lot of things read well, until its put to the test properly capable is just a word thrown around on this site.

As for fuel, let it be said; my defender cost 20k less than a base disco. So while you may out save me on fuel over many years of ownership i saved enough upfront to basically buy all the accessories for our kitchen reno. Thats a saving.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Id love to know how you come up with the defeiniton of capable in regards to the d5. On paper a lot of things read well, until its put to the test properly capable is just a word thrown around on this site.

As for fuel, let it be said; my defender cost 20k less than a base disco. So while you may out save me on fuel over many years of ownership i saved enough upfront to basically buy all the accessories for our kitchen reno. Thats a saving.

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You forgot about resale,a well looked after Deefer will have a resale way ahead of any other LR product.....

And the D5 will be no different from any other Discovery model,particularly as it is more expensive and more upmarket than any other Discovery.The more you spend the more you lose.

And Tombie is right,lets move on.......

Off road ability is not the only feature of this model,and my thoughts as said,that many in the D5 market more than likely couldn't give a rats about extreme off road ability.LR is targeting owners of AudieQ7,BMW,Volvo,(as LR themselves have said)people that would have no interest in off road ability.maybe a trip once a year to the beach,then end up on u tube would be about it.

I can't work out why LR themselves push the extreme off road ability in their advertising of this new model,then fit it with a silly,uncommon 19" tyre size.One would think after all the publicity about the D4 tyre sizes,they would have had an option for 18's.The equivalent 18" tyre size is a good size with many options.Yes i know, maybe after market options will appear.


It will also be interesting to see what after market accessories appear for this model.Reports from ARB are they are holding off at the moment,as per their latest mag.

Like many of us here I cannot afford to buy a new D5 and IF I did have that sort of money I would rather spend it making my D2 "As New" or better.
Imagine what you could do if you could afford to spend $80-$100k on a D2 [bigrolf]

If you are worried about resale value, don't buy a landrover.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

My defender cost me less to build than any d5.
The Op's iasue was offraod, so considering the fact that his concern was that the d5 is inappropriate for his idea of offroad then the answer to your question is this;
Everyones touts how capable the d5 is, so ive put my noney where my mouth is; prove it, show me, come and scratch the thing. If you can hold back the tears while panels are buffering impacts then ill consider the thing capable of serious offroad.

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What the hell has scratching a car got to do with how capable it is?
Have a listen to yourself!

As tombie said, so much cock waving going on, aulro really has gone backwards in recent years, its a real shame.

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Originally Posted by Vern

What the hell has scratching a car got to do with how capable it is?
Have a listen to yourself!

As tombie said, so much cock waving going on, aulro really has gone backwards in recent years, its a real shame.

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Almost as much cock waving as claiming a 100k d5 (so called capable version) is a serious offroader! What a load of BS.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Almost as much cock waving as claiming a 100k d5 (so called capable version) is a serious offroader! What a load of BS.

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Yeah we all get your opinion on it, its starting to get tiring now.
May'be go and start a how awesome is the defender thread.
This is about the d5 anyway!