Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

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Originally Posted by trout1105

...as long the new defender is as capable or more capable than the old one and also has a better safety rating and better reliability along with making it a true 1 tonner it will be a good vehicle.
It will also have to be competitively priced against it's Asian competitors offerings.
If however all the above is to be sacrificed for the sake of "Style" for the Yuppie market then I imagine that it will be an abject failure.

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Agreed 👍 however all of this can be achieved with good design too.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Personally i think that the asthetics are not all that important as long as the new defender is as capable or more capable than the old one and also has a better safety rating and better reliability along with making it a true 1 tonner it will be a good vehicle.
It will also have to be competitively priced against it's Asian competitors offerings.
If however all the above is to be sacrificed for the sake of "Style" for the Yuppie market then I imagine that it will be an abject failure.

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Considering the D5 has a payload of over 900KGs unaffected by ball weight I think they'll manage to make sure the new defender keeps up.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Personally i think that the asthetics are not all that important as long as the new defender is as capable or more capable than the old one and also has a better safety rating and better reliability along with making it a true 1 tonner it will be a good vehicle.
It will also have to be competitively priced against it's Asian competitors offerings.
If however all the above is to be sacrificed for the sake of "Style" for the Yuppie market then I imagine that it will be an abject failure.

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I seriously doubt it'll be a true 1 tonner, but if it is, it'll be awesome....

If a few curves above the waist line reduces the wind noise at highway speeds, it'll be a good thing... [emoji106]

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Well the reveal of the new Defender is less than 2 weeks away and looking at this photo I’m impressed with it as a replacement for D3 & 4 vehicles.
I’m sure it will be cheaper than a D5 but if choosing Air Suspension it may be close!

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Originally Posted by SBD4

Considering the D5 has a payload of over 900KGs unaffected by ball weight I think they'll manage to make sure the new defender keeps up.

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I'll be surprised if they don't beat the old Defender's payload, which is 1044kg for the 110.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I'll be surprised if they don't beat the old Defender's payload, which is 1044kg for the 110.

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The old defenders have a ladder frame chassis which is designed for heavy payloads, The new defenders chassis is very different and is Not designed for heavy payloads So I think you will be disappointed.

Its got to be priced competitively to sell here in volume,that is more sales than any other model they have.

I still think with EAS,and the large engines it will be around or above $90K.

Around LC200 VX price,and a little less than D5.

The way the D5 is priced with all the add ons is ridiculous,lets hope they don't do the same with the new Defender.

LR need to have a good look at how the opposition models run,and their pricing,if they want to compete with them.

It will also be competing with a vehicle we have not yet seen,thats the LC200 replacement.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

The old defenders have a ladder frame chassis which is designed for heavy payloads, The new defenders chassis is very different and is Not designed for heavy payloads So I think you will be disappointed.

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How do you know that the new Defender has a lower payload than the old one?