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I posted on Dec20 2016 :-Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobc163
"….I wonder how many updates the D5 will need to make it really functional and relatively trouble-free.
If you consider the D4 evolved slowly and thoughtfully from the D3, to what it is now, a very capable and reliable all-rounder, the D5 has a long evolution ahead, stay away for a few updates at least! "
" ….Incremental or not, improvements always are necessary and implemented, good luck with your purchase"
This is still valid for the first D5
That’s probably one of the reasons that more D4s were sold in the last 12 months they were available than any 12 month period previously,in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky
The word got around....
I still can't fathom why people are bashing this car when they've never driven one or seen it perform......
It's because it's lost some of its practicality in favour of generic styling and a target market shift.Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTerr
That's not to say it's not an awesome vehicle, just different from what it was.
It’s funny though, we’ve said that every time a new Disco comes out. I think “different” is the key word here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeros
When I had a D1, the D2 was a disaster and I swore never buy one yet I ended up loving it.
To me, the D4 lost too much of the D3’s practicality (unpainted wheel arches, 18” rims, too fancy an interior) but again I loved it and we all now think it’s a such a practical vehicle.
Just give it time. Once there are a few out there being used and a few accessories become available, we’ll soon change our minds.
Cheers,
Jon
Absolutely you might be right Jon. It's all relative. ..there's a news robot thread comparing the D4 and D5. Predominantly it says the D5 is 'better', but the key problems are to do with losing load space practicality.
And then there's Defender :-) ...maybe.[bigwhistle]
How did luxury become the priority over practicality? It seems anathema to Land Rover and certainly to beardy wierdies like me, but apparently not to others.
No idea, but really we’ve been chasing luxury since we came down out of the trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeros
Despite the luxury, the D4 was a practical vehicle. Having had a good look at the D5 I think it still is - it’s lost a few things but gained others. With such a breadth of capability it is far more practical for most of the population than a Defender. It just doesn’t meet the needs of the beardy-weirdies like yourself (I don’t have a beard [wink11]).
Cheers,
Jon
Coming down from the trees metaphorically can also be seen as a loss of paradise (another form of luxury) in favour of a concrete jungle, which it seems is the primary market for the D5, even more so than the D4.[bigwhistle] And that's all relative too. Going bush in our escape vehicles is effectively a yearning to return to the trees. How we go about it is a many and varied thing which informs the richness of these discussions.
But do you still want to live in a tree? [biggrin]
The one constant in life is change. We have to accept this but sometimes it’s hard and we yearn for simpler times. I must admit to struggling with much of the way the world is going now and driving a Defender and getting out in the bush is my antidote to it all.
I just find all the hand-wringing amusing (and I’m as guilty as anyone). If Land Rover didn’t respond to the changing market they would cease to exist.
I must admit I was very scathing of the D5 when I first saw and drove it, but it’s starting to grow on me. There’s still things I don’t like about it, some of which has been inherited from the D3. I think once we get used to it though we’ll think of it in the same way as a D4.
For now I’m happy just enjoying the simplicity of my Defender and parking it next to my tree.
Cheers,
Jon